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Two Moons

by Two Moons on 02 June 2010 - 06:06

The squirt gun and the treats are bad ideas, the treat is a reward for finding the offending article in the first place, and the water is idiotic.
Doesn't matter what command you use, and it can have more then one meaning.
As long as the dog knows what you want it to do.
I teach it on a leash, and with a boot if need be.

No , leave it,  get the hell outta there,  all mean about the same thing to my dog.
It comes in handy.

Rugers Guru

by Rugers Guru on 02 June 2010 - 07:06

"FOOOEEY!"..... My dogs think its their names. I use it daily

steve1

by steve1 on 02 June 2010 - 08:06

Hi
this is the word i use LOS, and you do not say it from your throat but from your Gut that way it sounds whats it means a completely different sound as if you say it so you roll the word it has the effect you want
the word Pfui. means  Quiet, or Rustig in Dutch.
But if you say the Word LOS a few times and say it from your Boots then you will get a reaction from your Dog
All commands every time should be spoken sharply and plainly not soft tones when training a young Pup No matter what words you use the words should be exaggerated Like if i call Izzy to me i do not say HERE i say HEEEER it is sharp and longer that the actual word
Steve1

missbeeb

by missbeeb on 02 June 2010 - 11:06

I'd get out there before the dog was allowed out and either pick up the cat poo or put something horrid on it... ground pepper perhaps?  He sounds like he's really in to the habit now, so time for a different route.

by TessJ10 on 02 June 2010 - 12:06

"Leave it" is not something just from pet stores.  It's commonly used with packs of hunting hounds, and has been used long before there were any pet store chains.

Ruger, where are you teaching the Leave it command?  Sounds like the dog either has not learned it or frankly does not respect you enough to obey you.  Every day when you walk in the the yard, set him up - you know he's going to go for something, so have him on leash and be ready with your command, correction, and praise.  I wouldn't use a spray bottle either, just a short, sharp leash correction, and big praise when he listens.  Without seeing you and your dog of course it's hard to say, but I'm thinking perhaps your corrections are ineffective.  Of course do not be harsh, and do not be emotional (angry), be impersonal but effective - he must learn that leave it MEANS leave it.

 


RLHAR

by RLHAR on 02 June 2010 - 13:06

For me, personally the commands "Out", "Aus", "Los" whatever you use is for the field only to keep from confusing the issue. For me "Out" means "Release NOW!" with a firm correction to follow if she doesn't let go of that sleeve.  I don't want to risk being in a position where I give that command and then be unable to immediately follow it up if she doesn't immediately release and then have a lacadasical "oh I can out if I want to" mindset transfer over into protection.

Hope that made sense.

I just use a quick, hard noise, "Aht!"  It's something I can get out quick and sharp at any necessary distance and my dog knows it means "leave it alone and move along."   I never use "Aht" on the training field because it's what I consider a 'softer' command, sort of a relaxed "get out of that, you know better."

steve1

by steve1 on 02 June 2010 - 14:06

Dogs should know one command for every exercise and if you want a dog to drop something no matter where it is you cannot confuse it with two commands for one exercise that is unfair to expect it
Mine get the one command if i want them to out anything anywhere, that word they know  the meaning it for was taught for It matters not where it was said it is imprinted in them to react to that word, and to give them two  commands for the same thing is not realistic or fair
In fact i have never heard of any sports SchH person doing it
Steve1

RLHAR

by RLHAR on 02 June 2010 - 14:06

Steve,

If this is in response to my comment I think you misunderstand me.

"Aht" means 'leave it alone, move away'
"Out" means release.

I really don't want her to have the cat in her mouth before I have to tell her to leave the cat alone. :D

Phil Behun

by Phil Behun on 02 June 2010 - 14:06

Ahhh, a short abrupt, sharp command, finally someone makes sense.  Basic consistent communication with your dog will drastically increase the level of his/her response.  Do you honestly think the dog uses the 2nd word you utter?  Why use multiple sounds when 1 will do?

Wolfinbok

by Wolfinbok on 02 June 2010 - 14:06

Ruger,
               Phil is right short and sharp, this is a very good suggestion. I use German
and dutch commands for correction, but there are french reward praise words
I like as well.  The standard is oust, and Phooy. Phooy is very good when the dog
is in the trash or eating horse shit. But by the time he/she is 6 months these two
words should ingrained in their head.

I would disagree with 2moons which I hate to do, but your choice of words
for commands and how you use them are very important. Listen to the Germans
how they say oust and phooy, and start there.





 


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