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nonacona60

by nonacona60 on 07 April 2010 - 15:04

Seems like this could be a genetic issue. Wouldn't that be along the same issues as cryptorchid males,.... sorta kinda??

by VomMarischal on 08 April 2010 - 16:04

There are SO many theories, trust me. I have even heard (by a speculating vet) that if a lone girl is in a uterine horn full of males, she gets inundated with testosterone, and that's where she begins being doggy. I don't have a clue. What I do know is, it's temporary, my girl was a VERY good mother, and she didn't pass it on. So go figure. She's also a phenomenal grandmother and I can't wait to let her raise my pick puppy.

DDR-DSH

by DDR-DSH on 08 April 2010 - 19:04

Oh, it could be OK, I'm sure.. I'm just saying that I've heard of and seen so many strictures, immature vulvas and reproductive system abnormalities in bitches, recently, that this makes me very nervous if I see anything unusual. Anything at all, really. I know a similar thing can also happen in human females. It probably does have something to do with hormone influence during the development of the embryo and young bitch. But, human females with incomplete repro tracts are not influenced by siblings.. It may have something more to do with the hormone balance of the dam.. I don't know! In some reptiles, ambient temperature when the eggs are incubating determines gender. Basically, the same organs in the embryo can develop as male or female, but this is related to chromosomes in mammals.. X and Y chromosomes seem to determine sex and the expression of secondary sex characteristics is created by hormone levels. I don't know a lot more about it.. It gets into endocrinology, which can be very complicated.

Uber Land

by Uber Land on 08 April 2010 - 19:04

I'm with DDR. 

a breeding bitch should be healthy and "normal" from the get go.  people are going to discover waay to late that  dogs such as this should not be bred from.  even if they do not reproduce this,  it is still being passed down the generations.  We are already seeing a surge of reproduction issue's (bitches not breeding, not being formed right, requiring AI's everytime, small litters, ect) with the german lines,  and its only going to get worse I am afraid.

by VomMarischal on 09 April 2010 - 03:04

But how do you account for the TEMPORARY nature of some of these issues? And my girl did get bred, but funny story there....

Stud owner: Well if he can't get her pregnant, nobody can!
ME: Why? because he's so experienced?
Stud owner: NO! Because he has such a tiny whanger!

And indeed, the tiny whanger did the job all by itself. 

Edit to add: I don't know of one single perfect dog or bitch. I do the best I can with what I can find. I try to pair dogs that compliment each other, especially regarding WORKING ability. That tiny-whanger male was fourth in the nationals, good enough for me.

by malshep on 09 April 2010 - 12:04

You can always if problems arise leading to pooling of urine around the vulva causing bacterial urninary infections, just have nip n tuck surgery to correct the issue removing the excess folds. I would take a wait and see mode. Talk to your vet and if you are going to breed your female talk to a repro specialist. JMO
Always,
Cee

by hodie on 10 April 2010 - 00:04

I have a female who was born with an inverted vulva. I cannot say whether there would ever be any issue with breeding her because I won't breed her, but the condition rectified itself and she never had any trouble at all. The main issue is in keeping the area clean. Normally, the pup or dog will do that herself.

by VomMarischal on 10 April 2010 - 00:04

Yeah, there's none of that inverted thing in my lines. Definite "Outies." I never even heard of it before this thread. Useful info! 





 


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