American Pitbulls - Page 2

Patchouli - I often wondered if the scent of patchoili that I was wearing at the time set it off.  Maybe it was trained to hate hippies, LOL!

Okay, I'll pipe up since no one answered the question.

They are bred for  PULLING.  As in weight.  They are judged on how much weight they can move.  They make a harness that fits around the dogs torso like a mesh vest and hook up the dog and let them pull to their hearts content.  This is a lot different than the one I saw, but it was years ago.  There may be new technology on the market.

My foster sis has two that did not make the cut for competition.  People that breed for that are real hush hush BC well, for obvious reasons, they don't want their dogs to end up in a place that will fight them.  When my sis went to pick up the first dog, the breeder met her and her boyfriend at a store to see what kind of people they were dealing with before they took them out to see the dogs.

Anyway, I hope that helps and good luck.

Windy

Thats what i was going to say. Yes they do pulling compatitions, i have a friend from highschool who does this with her pits, they enjoy is and so does she.

Oh hey sorry biljenbec.  I did not catch that you said it to.  Look at me not following my own advice about reading threw every post before opening my pie hole.  <chuckle>
Again, I am sorry biljenbec.

W

We had a young couple who brought their two APBT's to the Dog Sled Races... the dogs loved it, got along fine with the yelping Huskies and 300 people... and generally placed in the Children's 500 yard dash.

I will have to agree with MJD80 and some other's on here. They are an awesome breed if owned by good owner's that know what their doing. Any dog can be vicious and be a pit fighting dog if that is how you raise it. There is a humane society about 45 minutes from me and they are always over whelmed by how many Pit Bull's they get. They all told me that not one has ever attacked them it's always been the Labs, and smaller dog's that take a bite out of them every time. I heard on the local radio station once that a woman was walking in her own field minding her own business and she saw a red Chow Chow. That Chow attacked her and got her to the ground. The woman said she thought her life was over until 2 Pit Bull's came out of no where and attacked the Chow saving her life. The Pit Bull's left when they knew she was safe. It's too bad you don't hear more stories like that one. I rescued a Pit Bull/Lab mix and I don't know what I would do without him. He is an awesome dog!!! and YES the dog on Little Rascals was a Pit Bull. I have seen Pit Bull's doing SAR work, Therapy work, and Schutzhund. They are good dog's and it's a sad shame their taking the BAD RAP only b/c how their LOW LIFE OWNERS have raised them. I personally would not want to be a breeder of this breed though, only b/c of the security measures you would have to take to make sure your dog doesn't end up in a pit fighting other dog's. I have a hard enough time taking certain measures on the puppies I have when I have them, I can't even imagine the measures you would have to take to make sure your Pit Bull puppies go into the right hands. I really wish they can turn this bad rap around on the people that raise them instead of the dog. The owner's need to be held accountable for training and raising this gorgeous breed. 

Kel

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Thats just what the breed was developed to do..... pull sheds.....LOL

I'm not knocking them, not at all. 

Just musing.

two moons hit the nail on the head.  All of the animal cop shows and humane society love to put all of the blame on "how they were raised".  If you have been around any breed of dog for any length of time you will know that breeding is the majority of the problem with most breeds.  Genetics!!!

What one does with those Genetic  is also apart of the issue, but if you have a dog that has been poorly bred, all the proper upbringing will mean nothing.  Genetics give you a perimetor to work within.  Proper training will bring out the best of that, or lack of proper care will give you the bottom that perimetor.  A dog, any dog, is only going to be as good or as bad as his care, socializing, training, discipline etc. within his genetic makeup.

Every person I have ever talked with that do not know dogs say the same old thing, "it's how they are raised".  In the 50's these dogs were great dogs with people, fantastic with kids, loved to play hard and were all around great dogs.  Just don't push your luck leaving them with another terrior breed.  As a rule they did not make great PPDs, but there were exceptions of course.  Usually they simply liked people too much.  They could have done sport fine.

What we are seeing today is mass breeding.  We are seeing the bangers and jerks that want a mocho dog breeding.  We see much of the criminal eliment breeding.  This has brought on the problems we have today.  In all of my life, I had never heard of a pit bull attack on a helpless child or adult until about 15-20 years ago when they became the rage of the gang bangers and other morans. 

This dogs disposition has gone through a great transition over the years.  It is poor breeding folks, stop listening to the so called experts that keep saying it is "how they are raised".  That only has an effect on the dog within its potential to be good or bad.  Good breeders have been screwed by all the nut jobs out there.  Look at what happened to Rotts.  Fantastic dogs in the 70s.  It took idiot breeders doing idiot breeding less than 30 years to all but ruin this dog.

As someone above wrote, pits do not give warning signs.  They have been bred over many many years to fight.  They simply are not bluff.  All dogs, or animals are mostly bluff, only the pit bull is not bluff.  Take away bluff, and you take away the warning signs. 

This subject gets too indepth to cover here, but I have trained (PPD) good ones, and I have trained ones I wish I had not.  I would not train one today because I would need to know the dogs in his pedigree and see what they were all about so as to determine if the dog in question was not a serious threat to people, but this is just about impossible since they do not go for titles or evaluations that rate a dogs temperament.

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Well I didn't get into the genetics part but yes I do agree with you olskoolgsds. With that being said, it is also the people that raise and own this gorgeous breed that have given them the bad rap. Yes genetics has a roll in it but it can usually (not always) be handled if in the right hands. Take a look at the Michael Vick dog's. Yes they had to put some down but the majority that have fought and been raised to fight are in loving homes today b/c they were rehabilitated, so there is hope. We just have to some how stop the drug lords, gang banger's, and bad breeding to bring this dog back to the way it use to be. Pit Bull's are gorgeous, beautiful dog's that deserve to get some kind of fighting chance to become the dog it once was. JMO

Kel