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Ditto Jenn !

july- I wasn't saying I disagree about gurantees, I was disagreeing that any form of dysplasia will prevent a dog from doing any kind of performance event.  ANY genetic condition that prevents a buyer from doing what they wanted to do with their puppy should be guranteed by the breeder.

Now, lets talk guarantees. Is a family with an 18 month old dysplastic dog who they love dearly going to return it to the breeder for replacement? Of course not. What would said breeder do with the dog anyway? A guarantee that calls for the return of the original dog to receive any kind of replacement, discount, or compensation is pretty shady in my book, too.  Most breeders know damn well a family who loves a dog is not bringing it back.

Mystere, I was just playing devil's advocate. I agree, if they talk about it like it is what they're basing their pups' values on, they better be able to back it up. My import bitch is titled, bred to a titled stud, but I won't be telling anyone I was out there on the field with her, lol. Temperament and balance will be what I will tout.  The titles just help get them into better homes.

I would never ask for the dog back in a dysplasia guarantee. What a shitty way to go back on your word.

LMAO, Mystere. I posted before I read your additon to your post. Temperament and balance- what a concept!

Quote: A guarantee that calls for the return of the original dog to receive any kind of replacement, discount, or compensation is pretty shady in my book, too.  Most breeders know damn well a family who loves a dog is not bringing it back.


II absolutely agree!!  That is NOT a guarantee of anything, other than that the breeder may never have to live up to the "guarantee."   It is crap.   I will make that # 15.

I'd like others opinions on HD guarantees. As a buyer, I think a HD guarantee should include either another puppy of a comparable breeding or a refund of purchase price if my puppy has HD. I didn't know any better the first time, but the first GSD puppy I got had a 12 month guarantee against HD and the renumeration in the contract only would have given me another puppy from a comparable breeding IF I had proof of the puppy being euthanized because of the HD before 12 months of age. We were fortunate that she didn't have HD, but I'd never agree to that kind of warantee again--both the age and how I would be renumerated. From now on I will insist any HD guarantee will give me the choice of either having the purchase price refunded or receiving another puppy from a comparable breeding--regardless of if I choose to euthanize the first dog. As was mentioned earlier, the warantee should be longer than 24 months of age.

Just my thoughts ... what am I overlooking?

Thanks

I think you did a great job here, but I have to take issue with the warranty versus guarantee language.

A breeder cannot guarantee anything -- how can you make sure with 100% confidence that the hips will be fine, the temperament will be strong, etc.?  You can't. 

What you can do is warranty them, meaning you can contractually arrange to compensate the puppy buyer in whole or in part in the pup does not OFA or has bad elbows or is missing teeth, etc.

Very nice Mystere, I'm with you 100% too.
My thoughts on hip/elbow guarantees would include requiring spay/neuter on the dysplastic dog before a refund or replacement is given. Even on a dog sold with limited registration. Return the dog, no. My thoughts on refunds and replacements are too complicated to list right now. Too many variables.

You beat me to answering my question with #15 as we must have posted at about the same time. Thanks and I agree with you. A breeder knows you're not going to return or euthanize your pet you raised if there's any way to avoid it.