by Christopher Smith on 18 February 2009 - 16:02

If this were true (I’m extremely skeptical) it could be a great thing for dogsport in the US. Breeders in the US would finally have to work with our own and create true lines. Maybe we would have more than a few breeders that has bred their own breeding stock for more than a generation or two.

by vomlandholz on 18 February 2009 - 16:02

BUT if it is as stated above, stop taking live animals as cargo, you wouldn't even be able to ship WITHIN the US either. So I guess as breeders we'd have to start delivering our pups instead or require pickup only. Then you've just cut off numerous states. Just a thought if it were actually true.

by hodie on 18 February 2009 - 16:02

Once again, people succumb to internet rumor and half-truths. When will you people learn? There are, and have long been, rules about transport. If you think there should not be, then you have your head somewhere in the dark. Rules are there to protect the animals.

http://www.petflight.com/airlines

Why don't you guys spend as much time researching something before spreading garbage? You only propagate the problem and make it worse when you don't know what you are talking about.

by SitasMom on 18 February 2009 - 16:02

and what about the anti dog legislation coming up to vote in states like OK?

breeders will not be able to deliver dogs into thier state with out a permit

by hodie on 18 February 2009 - 16:02

Sitasmom,

Why don't you actually read the proposed regulations?

by Micky D on 18 February 2009 - 16:02

"Once again, people succumb to internet rumor and half-truths. When will you people learn? There are, and have long been, rules about transport. If you think there should not be, then you have your head somewhere in the dark. Rules are there to protect the animals.

http://www.petflight.com/airlines

Why don't you guys spend as much time researching something before spreading garbage? You only propagate the problem and make it worse when you don't know what you are talking about.

Hodie, THAT's why I asked people to verify.

People on a different dog site were panicking. I KNEW the folks here would find out if it were true or not!!!

IF this were true, would you not want a heads up?

by Nickie on 18 February 2009 - 16:02

What about if you take them as extra baggage??

by Baldursmom on 18 February 2009 - 16:02

Well, I guess my complaint on this, whether new regs are true or forthcoming is how in the heck can the airlines be losing money on transporting dogs? I pay more for my dog to fly than I pay for myself and I get a real seat. I would think the airlines would be falling over backwards to make sure they continue to recieve this revenue for "cargo". Granted there is a liability here and most airlines are making sure the cargo compartments are safe for the animals. Afer all, they should be if the "dog" pays more that a human.

For those who do not know:
One way ticket for a pup to the east cost is over $200.00. One way for my female from CA was $357.

by SitasMom on 18 February 2009 - 17:02

"Perhaps some of the confusion revolving around pet transport will be resolved once the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) issues guidelines for the airlines to comply with the new pet regulations. But the agency is dragging its feet. The DOT told WAN it was working with the USDA and FAA to draft the guidelines, but said no firm time commitment for issuance had been established."

When are these guidelines going to be issued, and what effect will they have?

by Micky D on 18 February 2009 - 17:02

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however attempt to assist the customer in correcting any non-compliance items. Customers in

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