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kitkat3478

by kitkat3478 on 27 December 2008 - 15:12

Well thats news to me. I have had black dogs for years, and all mine have been black,black, black. I just went and checked again, and even my real long coat black girl has nothing but black, even the black hairs between her toes are black.


Jacob Angel

by Jacob Angel on 27 December 2008 - 16:12

Hello

 

Kit Kat, no disrepsect taken.. thanks for being courteous...

I am just here to learn as much as I can, and try and offer advice when appropriate. Old Bagheera was my first G.S.D. he was 95% American, from Cullman, Alabama. I miss him dearly.. he was soo cool.

Yes, I agree Bagheera was a bi-color....but indeed he was sooo black that his A.K.C. paperwork had him registered as a solid black dog. Even at a year old his marings looked very faint with just ticking on the feet.... but by 2 years old. The cream grew in solid right up his legs.

In regards to all of the different shades of black... I read that there is Blue Black and Red Black Shepherds. Meaning that Solid Black Dogs will either have a blue-ish black coat or a redish black coat.

Very BEst, Happy HOlidays!

Jacob, Rama, Akeelah... and the spirit of Bagheera!


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 27 December 2008 - 16:12

First of all a dogs coat will change a couple of times before its fully grown.   Color, texture, markings.

Second,  I have seen the same thing in my black bitch from time to time, shedding hair that is white at the base and black at the tips.   You can't see the white until the hairs come out tho.   

I have seen blacks with different coats and under coat so I don't believe they are all the same.   And its not bi-color to have traces of color between the toes or even a white mark on the chest.

I also had a black male, born black who changed to bi-color later on as he aged, the change started at a year.

You might look for the change around the vent area.

The vet can't do anything except charge you for the office call.   Don't bother.   I would however go back to the breeder and look at the bloodlines again.   

Even then, anyone who really knows genetics will tell you things are not etched in stone.  There can be mutations and variations that can not be predicted simply with a chart.

Maybe post his pedigree sometime, and you'll have to wait and see one way or the other.

If you don't want him I'll take him off your hands for you....:)

Moons.

 


Two Moons

by Two Moons on 27 December 2008 - 16:12

I remember surfing the net for solid blacks and finding a breeder who had ( The Best in Working Blacks ) that was the pitch.

They had photo shopped a picture of one of their puppies and it was obvious that they had covered a white spot on the dogs chest.   

The parents of my solid black ( bi-colored) male were both solid black.

Just an after thought.


wuzzup

by wuzzup on 27 December 2008 - 17:12

German shepherds are like a box of chocolates,you never know what color they will be until??Well ya get the drift ,,they change colors alot..Some times you register them as one color when there young and by three you see its not a bicolor it's a saddle  back.you register as a dark sable and it lightens up on you or visor verso.They just keep changing..


VIANDEN

by VIANDEN on 27 December 2008 - 17:12

This is my girl Shaka  she was all black as a pup when she was 5yrs she had alttle brown  coming up the back of her legs, now at the age of 8 she has grey though her tail and under belly and under her tail. Her mother is a red sable her father is a blk/tan. first picture she was 5yr second picture 8yrs.


VIANDEN

by VIANDEN on 27 December 2008 - 17:12

Sorry second picture didn't post with the first . Shaka at 8yrs old.


katjo74

by katjo74 on 27 December 2008 - 19:12

Sometimes a black pup produced out of a blk/red or blk/tan parent(not sure if it can happen with a sable or bi-color parent) can end up with faint iron-greyish bleed-thrus of color approaching maturity, seen usually at the underarm pits, back-leg feathering, under the tail, around the privates. I've seen such on numerous occassions personally. And no, these dogs don't have colored feet-they're black as they should be. Just interesting 'high-lights' that can develop in maturity.

katjo74

by katjo74 on 27 December 2008 - 19:12

Sometimes a black pup produced out of a blk/red or blk/tan parent(not sure if it can happen with a sable or bi-color parent) can end up with faint iron-greyish bleed-thrus of color approaching maturity, seen usually at the underarm pits, back-leg feathering, under the tail, around the privates. I've seen such on numerous occassions personally. And no, these dogs don't have colored feet-they're black as they should be. Just interesting 'high-lights' that can develop in maturity.

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 27 December 2008 - 21:12

Molly:  My black bitch  gets chocolate clumps on her shed when she throws her beautiful shiny black...Never any grey or silver or white inprints anywhere....but then after you brush out the cast off, the coat is still black as the ace of spades....lol

YR






 


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