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Kaffirdog

by Kaffirdog on 25 December 2008 - 08:12

Hi GARD

MERRY CHRISTMAS

How about getting the breeder to vaccinate the pup and get a titre test so you know the vaccine has worked before bringing the pup home?

Margaret N-J


4pack

by 4pack on 25 December 2008 - 08:12

I say wait and worry about the dogs you already have. Why risk a good pup to disease?


Gator113

by Gator113 on 25 December 2008 - 09:12

 "I guess my line of work makes me see things in a different light." 

LOL I did that job for 30 years and I don't miss it one bit. ;>) 
I doubt that you will take me up on my offer because of distance and shipping costs, but if you have him shipped up to Washington state, on the Olympic Peninsula at the top of a mountain. I would be more than happy to babysit your pup for as long as you need. He would be very safe with me. My pup is very well behaved and he's six months old. I am with my dog 24/7 and would likewise be with yours. 

Stay Safe... and have a Merry Christmas.   p.s. If you shipped him to Seattle, I would drive the 3 hours over to get him.


steve1

by steve1 on 25 December 2008 - 09:12

Get a Real Dog

Sorry to here your of your problem, not nice at all,

If you spray the yard etc you should be okay, but if you have a strong blowtorch to run over it before you disinfect that will make double sure, once your pup gets  all his shots there should be no problem, I hope you find some one who can help you out for a month, its not much to ask to keep the pup for that time

i would if i was over there but its not to be

 Steve


Olga Ashley

by Olga Ashley on 25 December 2008 - 10:12

How long ago did the parvo problem occur?

Here is my experiance with parvo.  About 4yrs ago I had a very nice litter of 7 puppies, by the time they were just over 12wks old 4 remained.  They were VERY crazy showline puppies, two of the puppies got into a scuffle...the male had a puncture to the face...right near the tear duct and the female had a tail injury.  I took them to the vet where the male picked up Parvo despite them already having 2 sets of shots AND not being allowed on the floor.  The female went to her new home the next day and she was not affected.  The male got sick, so did all of the remaining puppies.  As soon as the male was diagnosed, all puppies were hospitalized and all survived.  I disinfected the puppy room with bleach several times, I lived on 2 acres at the time thus disinfecting the yard was NOT going to happen.  I had another litter born 4-5mos later, the puppies were 9wks old before being allowed to go outside, I vaccinated earlier than usual and the puppies had already gotten 2 sets of shots prior to going outdoors.  All puppies were fine even though there was still parvo present in my yard. 

Here is what I would do.  No one will put as much effort into your puppy as you will.  So here is what I would do.

Disinfect the house with bleach as best as you can.  Disinfect any items that were in contact with the infected dogs with bleach or discard them.  Buy new shoes to wear only in the house with the puppy.  Put up a puppy pen outside, disinfect the area inside the puppy pen.  Buy all new bowls and toys for the puppy to play with.  When the puppy first comes home, I would supplement with Parvaid for a few days to boost immune system.  Just my oppinion.

 


by Teri on 25 December 2008 - 13:12

Hi GARD,

I agree with Olga, your pup is a sponge and needs to be introduced to as many things in your world so it will be accustomed to you and your life style before 20 weeks.   My 6 month old female GSD is already very different from her siblings because of her exposures with me and at my house.  She will be a Search and Rescue dog and Schutzhund trained.  I need her to be fearless of everything and in every situation and/or at least have a very quick recovery.  

I live in Florida so I'm too far to help out plus just had back surgery so I'm broke and barley able to do anything with my babies.  My boyfriend is doing a great job as their nanny. :o)  I sent my 18 month old GSD to her breeder to continue her Schutzhund training.  She has been there 3 weeks but I'm getting her back this weekend and will drive her to training even though I can't participate yet myself.  We all do things differently and I don't want her to think she's been abandoned or get use to anothee environment.  Good luck with your pup.

Teri      


by mccia on 25 December 2008 - 14:12

Interestingly enough, when a pet with parvo is taken to the vet's office that room is not shut down for the rest of the month or even for the week.  Here's my sad story.  I gave my pups their first set of inoculations at 5 weeks.  I know, I know a little early, but I figure it couldn't hurt.  I wanted them to have 2 sets before outside visits.  I used Pfizer.  The 2nd shots from vet were done at 8 wks.   They used Fort Dodge.  Everything was in order.  Health certificates were issued.  Three weeks later vomiting and diarrhea.  Took the worst one to the vet.  I put a blanket down in case he could have picked up something bad with his already compromised and poor imunity.  No blood in stool, so we tested for coccidia and giardia.  Nothing.  That same day I gave one girl who was very sick 1cc of penicillin.  Never had another problem from her.  The penicillin probably boosted her imune system.  I didn't treat any other pups.  Big mistake.  Two days later 2 died.  It turned out to be parvo.  What could have happened?  I didn't lock my gates, so meter readers could have carried the virus.  Even birds could have brought something in.  I spent a lot of money on the other three that were dying.  They pulled thru. I lost money on the whole litter.  I had 11 pups in total.  I bleached my medium sized yard every time they went out in their pen.  I still had 4 other pups (including the one I treated),  that I couldn' t let go for another month in case they were in the incubation stage of the parvo virus.  They never got sick.  Two years later I had a second litter without a problem.  Human hospitals, if they still use bleach dilute it 1:9, bleach to water.  The vet told me that the pan of solution placed outside the exam room, once they found out my pups had parvo, was bleach and water 1:32.  She told me that should be good enough.  In my house I used straight bleach on my floors.  Outside I think 50/50 for the next month.  Best to you.  Sorry this is so long, but I thought it was needed.                                                                                                                                                                Love and Peace,   Marcia


Mystere

by Mystere on 25 December 2008 - 16:12

I used a sprayer with the pool chlorine tableys and granules. I then dumped the residue in the sprayer on all the spots where the parvo puppy had pooped. Years later, in 1999, a totally irresponsible idiot attended a schutzhund seminar here in Washington, having hauled 2 adults and an entire litter of 8 week old puppies from Montana. During the coourse of the seminar, a couple of experienced breeders and avet tech recognized the her puppies had diarrhea with the parvo smell and "caught" her dosing them with Pepto. only when one of those puppies died did the idiot tell anyone her dogs were sick. We nearly physically forced her to take her dogs to a local vet and have them tested for parvo. Sure enough, it was parvo. I bought several gallons of bleach and saturated the grounds everywhere her dogs had been. This was at a small stadium on the grounds used for a for county fairs, dog show, horse shows, Highland Games, etc. Additionally, there were many homes in this semi-rural area and dogs running loose all the time. Local vets were also notified of the "incident," because I was concerned that dogs would become ill and their owners have no clue that something serious might be happening. The aftermath is that one puppy that was brought to the seminar from Eastern Washington did contract parvo and was diagnosed a week after the seminar. A check with 3 vets in the area of the "incident" a few months later reported no parvo cases. One had gone to the stadium areaa couple months after the "incident," when a dog show was held at the fairgrounds, and said his eyes were still burning from all the bleach I'd used. He assured me that I had killed off every trace of the parvo virus.:-)

yellowrose of Texas

by yellowrose of Texas on 25 December 2008 - 20:12

SORRY GARD: But my vet disagrees with your vet..

There is a difference in picking it up from a park or a trace on your hand or shoe when  you are at work and come home...If you had a pup or pups on your grounds , house  etc, then you have more than a trace in the ground.

Hope you find someone to babysit for a couple of months while you bleach and get it ready..It is not a fun thing to have to deal with and I would worry my self stupid if my pup got one touch of diahrea and would be not able to handle the "Is it or Isnt it?  every time my puppy got a loose stool or even sneezed..

Puppies immune systems are not hard iron cast at a young age..They have to have time to mature no matter how good a blood line or how well they were fed. Especially during teething and the work line pups tend to have more stress levels as they want to work and bite so bad and they have a high level of    unrest at this age, simply because they dont relax,,they are always ready to go for it.

 

YR






 


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