officer shoots dog a different prospective - Page 2

Now as for the officer's history of shooting dogs and his effort to "rid the county of vicious dogs one by one" or what ever that news article said. It said that the officer MAY have been involved in shooting "as many as three other dogs." Ok let's think about this. Do we KNOW how many dogs this officer has shot. No we do not. Do we know how long this officer has been on the job? No we do not.

Do we know the circumstances of these other incidents. No we do not. How do we know he didn't shoot a dog that was protecting a drug dealers house when they entered on a search warrant. How do we know he did not humanly shoot an injured or sick dog? We don't. How do we know he did not shoot a roaming dangerous dog that had bitten several people. We don't.

It was said the officer shot a dog in broad daylight, in a residential area, with a shotgun. Ok well I can tell you if an officer had to shoot a dog in a residential area a shotgun would have been the correct weapon to use in that situation for the safety of the residents of the area. I can tell you that LE officers do not walk around residential areas in the middle of the day, carrying a shotgun for no reason. I highly doubt an officer gunned down a harmless dog in the middle of the day with many residents in the area. I highly doubt that.

seriously,  (and other LE here)

Your jobs are probably one of the most frustrating ones out there.  I have not seen anything you need to apologize for here.  Opinions are being expressed from both sides and emotions are high.  Besides, after a week on jury duty I could feel the same way.

It's very sad what happened and I hope a full investigation resolves Max's death.  I do hope they bring in outside jurisdiction to run the investigation and eliminate the preception of a false report, whatever the outcome may be.

As for the the disposition of the dogs body. We have no way of knowing what is really going on with that. Maybe a vet could confirm that decapitation is the only way of testing for rabies? Maybe the dog's body is needed for the internal investigation. Maybe the department is examining the bullet wounds for trajectory and location to either confirm or discredit the officer's account of the event? WE just do not know.

This whole story is filled with may bees and we don't knows. No one, and I mean no one, has the right to judge this officer's actions, string him by the balls, and demand he be fired when we know nothing of this story to be fact. Again the only thing we know as fact is an officer had a legal right to be on the property, a dog bit him, and he shot the dog. THAT IS ALL WE KNOW TO BE A FACT.

I still cannot believe that a fellow officer jumped on this bandwagon, gave incorrect information to this board, and wrote this officer's department recommending he be fired. I wonder if his department and fellow officers know this and how they feel about it. I wouldn't want a partner who doesn't know what circumstances to draw there weapon, question another officers actions knowing nothing to be fact. I definatley would not want an officer to investigate a crime if they operate on emotion and hearsay.

  Real Dog,

While I agree that we should use the greatest caution when passing judgement, what little information we have from posts indicates: 1. That the officer mistakenly entered the wrong premises.   2. That the dog was chained leaving retreat as an easy choice. 3. That the dog "nipped" him, as opposed to a serious attack. It would seem that the officer was not acting in self defense, but rather went on the offensive. 4.That this was not the first dog that the officer had shot in an apparently reckless manner.

As I posted to the other thread, I have seen many bites both legitimate and "unplanned". In my opinion the most common cause of unintended bites is human error, while the most common reaction is revenge x 10 on the dog which in most cases was doing what any reasonable person would expect him to do. As I stated, I am sympathetic to and appreciative of the law enforcement community, but I also recognize that such a job brings with it a level of responsibility and need for sound judgement that is not expected of the general population. I would like to see a world in which police officers are held to the highest standards of conduct AND are paid on a level commensurate with the demands, pressures, risks and implications of the job. If I find that my understanding of the basic facts in this case was flawed, I shall immediately retract my comments both here and in e-mail to Sheriff Coffey. If you have credible information that contradicts what we have been told, I would consider it indispensable in the pursuit of truth. Best Wishes, Jonah

Finally, in this society we want to blame the easy target. We do not want to accept responsibility for our actions. The ONLY person to blame here is the person who broke the law and did not give the court hsi real address. If this person abided by his court ordered child support, and wasn't trying to duck the court by not updating their address, the officer NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE and none of this would have happened.

I am the ultimate dog lover. I am also a cop. To hear of the horrible death of a valued family memeber makes me sad. I feel for Max's owners. I am truely sorry that this has happened. He died doing what he was supposed to do. Protect his home and family and that makes him a great dog.

All I ask is that people do not jump to conclusions run on emotion. Do not condem a man and potentially harm his livelyhood and family without any facts. Until proven otherwise; this is a man who risks his life everyday to serve and protect his community. Let's not forget that.

Max died a hero. My wish is that his family finds solace in that fact. I hope they don't let the officers actions, right or wrong, to overshadow that fact.

With my deepest sympathy.......

Get a real dog, when does common sense come into play here?

 You give many great questions but after re-reading your posts it's all abit round & round we go.. We have the info from the paper and that is it... I am sure there are times that you beleive what is in the paper when it suits you and your opinion!! An investigation yes and I fully await the results.. I feel only the dead dog and the officer know what truely happened, and GOD of course.. But that is the way all crimes work A!!! People have to fill in the blanks to decided what has happened..

"""get a dog wrote,

It was stated the dog "snapped" at the officer. How do we know that? Was the dog protection trained? It was stated the dog was of East German lines. We know that East German lines carry more aggression, so what was the dogs reaction to the officer? We do not know."""

Do you think the officer knew he was of east german blood? or if he was protection trained? There are a few statements you made in "hindsight  20/20"" to make your point...

I have not read any of your back posts yet, real dog, but are they all going to be as fair and balanced as you are trying to be here? I doubt it, I am sure there will be posts that you formed opinions without knowing all the facts!!!!  That is how people are I guess..

I just hope everything works out here.. If the officer was in the wrong I sure as hell hope he gets what he deserves and does not get the usual let the officer resign and slip away, to show up in my town..... If they find no fault, I hope they explain in detail what happened and address all the facts including the multiple dog kills by Deputy Dahmer....