A CONFORMATION TEST in GSD WORKING TRIALS - REQUIRED - Page 19

 If it is possible for any of you: ask yourself the question, WHAT HAVE MOST OF YOUR OWN POSTS GOT TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD? I am confident that most of you will not even understand the relevance of the question.

Liz you right we all are entitled to our opinions. No one can take that right away. :) As well we all are entitled to own the dog's that we like, weather is SL or WL, as long you are happy with it I think this would be all that really matters.

Videx, isn´t the subject that you wish the workingdogs should look more like the conformation of the showdogs?? As long as there is a fundamental difference between people how a GSD should look and act then I guess it´s better each do what they want. I can´t see any value of a workingdog that looks that way, it´s just personal taste with no basis in the value as a workingdog.

The subject of this thread has and will be ignored by most until you can answer the questions posted to you. I doubt anyone feels the need to help your cause, when you don't or can't help your own by following the SV rules yourself. I have no reputation to uphold or an income thru breeding I need to worry about.

In regards to SV rules...should the whole world need to abide by them? Should Police be required to Sch train their dogs and show rate their dogs, before they can be placed in a breeding program? If that was the case, they would fail to use them and move on to Dutch Shepherds and Malinois totally. There is no reason to waste time or $ on such things that do not help the dog, do the job it is intended.

Is there no sense of equity....you can't ask questions if you don't answer them when presented. Your arbitrary statement about the SV being infallible on the interpretation of the breed ia analogous to some other entities having infallible wisdom! Unfortunately, history has shown that money has had a corrupting influence on both. So because YOU state SV is infallible, this is not received by all including SV 2000, led by Dr. Raiser who has forgotten more about German Shepherds than the people posting on this topic. So there are many, besides people on this list, that don't support the current day SV interpretation so how infallible can it be???? Now true ignorance would be for people posting on this list to think they are more knowledgeable than a former infallible SV Breed Warden. Oh what a tangled web we weave......!  But I am sure it was not infallible when he was there, but now it is again. How convenient!!!  Every post I sent referred to fact that idea was good but interpretation must be on standards that have proven to produce show and working dogs. You ignore this in lieu of the infallacy lunacy. But if you think many many people throughout the world are not waiting for SV2000 to be recognized by FCI so they can leave SV than you are living on an island!!!

Then what is this David....

"This is long overdue, and I sincerely believe the introduction of a "CONFORMATION TEST" section, into Working Trials, at the highest level, will very quickly result in substantial improvements in the conformation of Working GSD towards the SV GSD Breed Standard. This in turn will substantially reduce, once and for all, the variance in type and conformation that we see across our German Shepherd Breed. "

Why worry what the rest of the world does or does not? Your sigting the SV rules upon others when you yourslef do not follow them. Worry about your own damn dogs and your kennel club standards. I follow all the AKC rules in my counrty too. Big Whoop!

I find it very hypocritcal that you want others to follow rules you do not.

Is there  a minimum age before dogs are supposed to be bred based on the Kennel Club Rules and Regulations?  AKC has a minimum, SV has a minimum.  What is the Kennel Clubs? 

 I am now considering an alternative proposal:

All entrants into the WUSV World Championship Trial, must have beed graded V under an SV conformation Judge.

If this were to be implemented, can you imaging the rapid improvement that would take place in the Working GSD conformation.

What David Payne is asking to do is, lay the burden on others shoulders to fix the problems within the breed, while he himself goes about his own business, breeding underage, untitled dogs.

Lets all work harder to fix the breed because there are hundreds of Davids out there trying to screw it up as fast as we can fix it! 

Reminds me of the bumper sticker... Work Harder, Millions on Welfare are counting on you!