Top Showlines with good protection phase - Page 18

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 Jupp, the sire of Dax von der Wienerau was mentioned earlier in our discussion  about the dam of Odin von Tannenmiese, Hasel vom Tanenmeise.
Dax was the Sire of  the very important “Natz. V. Hasenborn” who was placed in the V.A. class a number  of times, and finally Reserve Sieger  in 1986.
 The most influential of “Natz’s” many sons was undoubtedly “Cello von der Romerau”, whose Dam – “Quana v. Arminius”  was a  sister to the 1986 Sieger “Quando”.  Natz therefore represents a combination of the Mutz and Quanto v. Wienerau bloodlines.
 “Cello” was very widely used and sired some excellent dogs, including  the Reserve Sieger “Atlas v. Bad Boll”,  “Hoss v. Hasenborn”  “Cim Ecknachtal” and the very dominant “Eros Luisenstrasse”,
 “Eros”, mentioned previously, was the Sire of 1997 Siegerin “Connie vom Farbenspiel”, who is  the Dam of the Double Sieger “Yasko v. Farbenspiel”.
 He also figures prominently in the pedigree of  “Ursus v. Batu” as he was the Sire of “Maxi v. Batu  the Dam of “Verena v. Batu”
There is little likelihood of the name of Mutz v. Peltzierfarm ever disappearing from the pedigrees of top show winners.   An important “Eros” son, the V.A. rated Huppy v. Arlett,  produced the 2004 Reserve Sieger, Hill vom Farbenspiel who is proving an outstanding producer of  top  quality stock and whose services are very much in demand by breeders in Germany.

Source: http://www.allaboutgermanshepherddogs.com/pillars.htm

Ravi Iyer, Vienna, VA

Thank you Ravi for sharing your research.

.... and HAPPY BIRTHDAY to YOU !!!!

karen

Thanks Karen..... you are a tad early though..... its on May 20th!.... but at 53 I seriously don't beleive 5 days matter!

Ravi Iyer, Vienna VA

Ravi,

Thanks for your input!

Let's get back to number crunching. We still need to assemble the information and see where it leads us. Which dogs are common in the pedigrees? We need to post the list of the dogs, print the 4 generation pedigrees and see what dogs are common.

Thank you Randy for including me in this thread

Would be very interested to see your analysis.....

Look forward to Ibrahim dissecting Juneau's pedigree along with the others.

Ravi, as a matter of co-incidence my own hound, Nelson, is also a Yasko (on the father side) & Enzo (on the mother side) grandson but line bred 4-5 on Mark (rather than 5-4 on Jeck). And athough I don't train in Schutzhund per se I can see he has the makings of an admirable temperament. The day to day obedience, weekend tracking and rough house 'fights' we have over sticks etc shows his desire to work and please along with a robust character. But, of course, only dedicated training would confirm this and if the truth be told he's way better than both my abilities and desires which, as already discussed, is perhaps part of this issue with many showlines.

BTW I nearly forot to add, that I believe  Enzo von Buchhorn himself, worked well in the courage/protection phase. Perhaps somebody could confirm?

Cheers,

Andy B

Nominees so far

Randy,

Earlier you said not to go upto Frei vom Hirschel, and now you say we print 4 generation and check common dogs, in some pedigrees it takes us even beyond Frei, I am trying to but I tell you it is a very big job, too many dogs are in common, it needs a special software to find all the common dogs. What you say?

Ibrahim

Ibrahim,

Juneau was born June 13th 2004

I am sure Kevin nance can give you Vandal's birthdate

@ Andy B:

Yes though I have not seen Enzo... I too have heard that he had a solid work ethic....