2010 USA Sieger Show, Lake Geneva WI. - Page 18

Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil.  Denial is a marvelous thing.  There is no denying the exhibit of dog/owner aggression that was on display today in front of hundreds of spectators and nothing was done.  It's all about the Benjamins and not about the dogs and ethics,,,,,,,,,,from where I come from, that's pathetic. 

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So, then how many USA members who were present and saw this first hand are going to email/write/call JA and crew and ask why nothing was done?  Hmmmm?

OK Am I blind??? or I just missed something ...... but I  did not see any off leash for working males.

My guess is,,,,,,,,,none.  It's the Johannes House Rules now.  Your opinion is what Johannes tells you it is.

Good question, Tess. Hopefully, there will be ONE person who actually witnessed it and is willing to step up. At the Nationals last November, a couple not only witnessed a competitor cheaing, they had the photgraphic evidence. They came to me, I saw the photos, heard why they were there with the camera at the ready when the competitor came off the field and caught him on film, removing a ball -on- a- string from his pockey, as he came off the field after the judge's critique. I stated that *I* would file the BOI charges, if they would give me copies of the photos and a written statement about how and why the photos were taken (the wife had seen the guy put the toy in his pocket going onto the filed for the B portion). Guess what? I did not see hide nor hair of them the entire rest of the weekend.

Couldn't miss this, it was in the ring with the 3 other kennel groups.  Judging had to be halted as Mr. VA1 was walked out of the ring for a little quiet time and was then brought back in.  One more pass around the ring with him placed on the other side of his group and he starts up again this time under the tutelage of his owner who took one for the team, donating some flesh from his right hand.  ALL THIS IN THE RING with the judges 20 feet away.

well what do you expect I heard same breeder sat with judge in tent thru the stand for exam. how blatant do you want to be. everyone knows connection between her and Tim B. and the Judge. hell last year's sieger she had the judges out to dinner with her so long, most people weren't able to see them at  the meet the judge reception. But if it wasn't for her 33 dogs entered look how much smaller show would of been.

I heard dog that the V2 female, attacked another dog during off leash still got V2. not first show that dog did that at either, couple weeks ago same thing at topline show.

It's not about the dogs it's who you know and blow. There are honest breeders and competitors out there but they are the minority.
How many dogs do you think had prong show collars on in the show ring. I could probably name a few. Also heard someone (just to make it clear NOT with same team as VA dog) had balls to put e-collar attaced to fur saver on dog during protection phase. heard it was obvious when dog jumped on the aus. you're going to tell me judge didn't notice it. I know spectators that did. 

 Well, it still amazes me how they could forget about off leash for a working males? It could change the whole outcome. 

Not forgotten outcome already decided. why tire dogs especially if they are out of shape