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by Dogs Rules on 08 June 2009 - 22:06
Raymond- news flash all Obama has done is lie from day one from the Selma March to his grand daddy to the fact he was going to govern from the center and lower taxes - all Trace 755 does is send shit no one is interested in and argue moot points for the sake of agrument- FYI I dont need a graft to see the business folding around my town and people out of work and steady getting the pink slips. dont need your copy and paste to tell me not one person I know has a job directly related to the OBAMA (not bush) stimulis crap- common sense is something you dont have Trace755 or you dont work or are a student on daddys money- I frankly dont give a damn about George Bush and what he did or didnt do but I do care a hell of a lot about not being able to pay my mortage and being out of work-i dont need anyone to tell me its not good for business to be owned and funded by government and certainely can see a socialist as clear as pig is to pork
FYI Kuddos to Justice Ginsberg today for not approving the sale of Chy and stoping the giving the control of Chy to the Union goons and even tho they say she is left she followed the rule of law to a Tee Write your congress and senate and tell them hats off to Ginsberg for stoping the Obama train!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe there will be some justice and some democrats will stop the fool before he controls when we can take a shit! Nixon once said he was the president and above the law it looks like Obama is pulling a Nixon he thinks he can stuff crap down our throats take investors money and give it to the unions who have vested interest like acorn in keeping corruption in office!!
Let you government know I am proud of Ginsberg have to eat crow I did not think the old girl would go against Obama !!!!!!!!!
by raymond on 08 June 2009 - 23:06
Well for your info dog rules I was fortunate enough to retire early at 55 from my union carpenters job of 30 years of hard bone crushing back breaking work. well the early was account of no work for the past 3 years for most carpenters union or not. for your info the unions are responsible for your freaking standard of living fool. I still do not see the logic of selling the auto makers to foreign interests. this economic trouble goes back to Nixon taking us off the gold standard and our greedy legislature spending all that we set aside! And that clown Clinton and nafta sent all business south of the border and overseas. I busted my arse for what I have and did not get any help from anyone. I scrape by and worry about the future for my UNEMPLOYED CHILDREN who lost their jobs to outsourcing. Yes here in greater Chicago the unemployment is about 30 % . I personally know many who lost their jobs at Abbott lab; Baxter health care ;Motorola;and not to mention the radioactive nuclear plant one mile from my home the the freaking govt and com ed will not repair and put back on line. Oh yes our property taxes keep going up up up and reductions in service yet those who make the laws keep getting pay raises. Obama is a scumbag and 90 % of our law makers are crooks. I will predict the future for ya hold on to your seats it is gonna get worse. And those union goons you like to slam are responsible for the standard of living in this country. Probably why you can go take a shit in the warmth in winter. And get that drink of water short of walking to the well. And those carpenter union goons are responsible for the relatively safe home you sleep in. not to mention the pipe fitters goons who allow you to have hot water. So KMA when you bad mouth the unions .those BOYS IN THE AUTO SHOPS PAVED THE WAY FOR OUR STANDARD OF LIVING. that RETIREMENT MONEY IS THE MONEY THEY PUT ASIDE FOR THEIR RETIREMENT
by Dutch Boy on 08 June 2009 - 23:06
LOL, guess it's time for the repub's to complain. Dem's had to do it for 8 yrs.
by horoceo on 08 June 2009 - 23:06
Trace,
You are hiding behind semantics. I have not mentioned a recession under Clinton, but a noticable economic downturn. The article I linked to was not written in hindsight. It was written at that time, about current events. If you read the entire article, you will find that the move was quite unusual, and that the major players were concerned about the severity and speed of the economic downturn. Argue what ever you want, but the economy slowed before Bush took his oath. Clinton did not, nor did Bush lower interest rates. The Fed Reserve does that. Was Bush so moronic when in 2001 he said we had to reel in the practices of Fannie and Freddie that caused the current collapse? Or McCain when he predicted the collapse in 2005 if things didn't change? If you really want to lay blame on Bush, focus on his spending and his lack of resolve to use his political capital to push the changes that he said were needed.
You are hiding behind semantics. I have not mentioned a recession under Clinton, but a noticable economic downturn. The article I linked to was not written in hindsight. It was written at that time, about current events. If you read the entire article, you will find that the move was quite unusual, and that the major players were concerned about the severity and speed of the economic downturn. Argue what ever you want, but the economy slowed before Bush took his oath. Clinton did not, nor did Bush lower interest rates. The Fed Reserve does that. Was Bush so moronic when in 2001 he said we had to reel in the practices of Fannie and Freddie that caused the current collapse? Or McCain when he predicted the collapse in 2005 if things didn't change? If you really want to lay blame on Bush, focus on his spending and his lack of resolve to use his political capital to push the changes that he said were needed.
by Red Sable on 09 June 2009 - 00:06
I don't share your love of Unions Raymond, although I'm sure all the auto workers do, AND I imagine the Presidents of the Unions love them the most. I wonder how much they rake in annually?
They started out as a good thing, but like all things these days greed has taken over.
They started out as a good thing, but like all things these days greed has taken over.
by SitasMom on 09 June 2009 - 00:06
I so don't understand why you folks blame the whole administration on the one person on top.
The Dem's have controlled many aspects of the federal government for quite some time.........
The fucking media controls the rest.............
Now we have a clean sweep - the Dem's control all of it - the congress, the senate, the executive branch and the press........
Talk about corruption-------------------------
Have you heard that the ratio is 42:1 on Chrysler dealerships closing? One would thing it would be 42 failing dealerships to 1 profitable dealership - but no that's not the deal......its 42 dealerships owned by people who contributed to the RNC vs 1 that contributed to the DNC.........................
The dealerships are independent businesses and do not cost the auto maker one red cent. But our government has decided to close the competition-------------
Here in Alvin TX, they are shutting down a very profitable dealership and giving the license to the jeep dealership across the street - and that dealership is loosing money............
I SMELL A RAT!
and its only going to get worse............
you obama lovers had better get your heads out of your butts and grok what's going on before its too late.
The Dem's have controlled many aspects of the federal government for quite some time.........
The fucking media controls the rest.............
Now we have a clean sweep - the Dem's control all of it - the congress, the senate, the executive branch and the press........
Talk about corruption-------------------------
Have you heard that the ratio is 42:1 on Chrysler dealerships closing? One would thing it would be 42 failing dealerships to 1 profitable dealership - but no that's not the deal......its 42 dealerships owned by people who contributed to the RNC vs 1 that contributed to the DNC.........................
The dealerships are independent businesses and do not cost the auto maker one red cent. But our government has decided to close the competition-------------
Here in Alvin TX, they are shutting down a very profitable dealership and giving the license to the jeep dealership across the street - and that dealership is loosing money............
I SMELL A RAT!
and its only going to get worse............
you obama lovers had better get your heads out of your butts and grok what's going on before its too late.
by Uglydog on 09 June 2009 - 00:06
MaggieMay..
Barak is a Hebrew, Old Testament, Jewish Name. Here it is defined right off Wikipedia.
'Barak (Hebrew: בָּרָק, "Lightning; Shine"), Al-Burāq) the son of Abinoam from Kedesh in Naphtali, was a military general in the Book of Judges in the Bible. He was the commander of the army of Deborah, the prophetess and heroine of the Hebrew Bible. Barak and Deborah are credited with defeating the Canaanite armies led by Sisera, who for twenty years had oppressed the Israelites.
The story of the defeat of Canaanites under the prophetic leadership of Deborah and the military leadership of Barak, is related in prose (chapter 4) and repeated in poetry (chapter 5, which is known as the Song of Deborah).
Famous BARAKs:
Ehud Barak, a former Israeli Prime Minister, and current Minister of Defense, deputy prime minister and leader of Israel's Labor Party
Barak Yitzhaki, Israeli football player
Aharon Barak, former President of the Supreme Court of Israel
The given name Barack is not a form of this name, but is instead related to a different Semitic root which means "blessing" and is also the origin of the names Baruch (Hebrew) and Mubarak (Arabic).
To Further prove my point..Here is the Jewish Lexicon on the Name BARAK
http://www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=01288
Raymond..
Islam is a Heresy, no doubt. They deny Christ as God, and the Trinity. They also deny the Incarnation.
But Christ is mentioned 34 times, Mohammed just 4, as Prophets. Jesus and his mother Mary are Revered in the Koran.
But in the Jewish TALMUD, Christ is called a 'Bastard boiling in hot excrement' and 'In Hell'
Barak is a Hebrew, Old Testament, Jewish Name. Here it is defined right off Wikipedia.
'Barak (Hebrew: בָּרָק, "Lightning; Shine"), Al-Burāq) the son of Abinoam from Kedesh in Naphtali, was a military general in the Book of Judges in the Bible. He was the commander of the army of Deborah, the prophetess and heroine of the Hebrew Bible. Barak and Deborah are credited with defeating the Canaanite armies led by Sisera, who for twenty years had oppressed the Israelites.
The story of the defeat of Canaanites under the prophetic leadership of Deborah and the military leadership of Barak, is related in prose (chapter 4) and repeated in poetry (chapter 5, which is known as the Song of Deborah).
Famous BARAKs:
Ehud Barak, a former Israeli Prime Minister, and current Minister of Defense, deputy prime minister and leader of Israel's Labor Party
Barak Yitzhaki, Israeli football player
Aharon Barak, former President of the Supreme Court of Israel
The given name Barack is not a form of this name, but is instead related to a different Semitic root which means "blessing" and is also the origin of the names Baruch (Hebrew) and Mubarak (Arabic).
To Further prove my point..Here is the Jewish Lexicon on the Name BARAK
http://www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=01288
Raymond..
Islam is a Heresy, no doubt. They deny Christ as God, and the Trinity. They also deny the Incarnation.
But Christ is mentioned 34 times, Mohammed just 4, as Prophets. Jesus and his mother Mary are Revered in the Koran.
But in the Jewish TALMUD, Christ is called a 'Bastard boiling in hot excrement' and 'In Hell'
And NO, the Unions didnt destroy America.
FED Reserve did. Our Corporate tax rate is 34%. 2nd Highest in the World.
by raymond on 09 June 2009 - 00:06
ud did you know the talmud is a book of witchcraft or mysticism or astrology or a worthless document and has nothing to do with the torah or the first five books of mose. Mormons derive some of theri beliefs from it/ correct
by Uglydog on 09 June 2009 - 00:06
The Truth About the Talmud
Copyright ©2000-2006 by Michael A. Hoffman II All Rights Reserved
The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."
The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be seen in the case of the black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians are very knowledgeable of the Old Testament. However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes' Talmud, of which the Ethiopians have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29, 1992, p.4:
"The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their way."
Because they are not traffickers in Talmudic tradition, the black Ethiopian Jews are discriminated against and have been forbidden by the Zionists to perform marriages, funerals and other services in the Israeli state.
Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most influential rabbis of the 20th century, the "unchallenged leader" of Orthodox Judaism and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish religious law). Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining more than 2,000 rabbis, "an entire generation" of Jewish leadership.
N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the rabbi's authority:
"Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to the study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva University's Elchanan Theological Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the Talmud...He held the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud...sitting with his feet crossed in front of a table bearing an open volume of the Talmud." (N.Y. Times, April 10, 1993, p. 38).
Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchik's knowledge of the Bible as the basis for being one of the leading authorities on Jewish law.
The rabbi's credentials are all predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. Other studies are clearly secondary. Britain's Jewish Chronicle of March 26, 1993 states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are "devoted to the Talmud to the exclusion of everything else."
The Talmud Nullifies the Bible
The Jewish Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written down in Jesus' time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees), because the Talmud nullifies the teachings of the Holy Bible.
Shmuel Safrai in The Literature of the Sages Part One (p.164), points out that in chapters 4 and 5 of the Talmud's Gittin Tractate, the Talmud nullifies the Biblical teaching concerning money-lending: "Hillel decreed the prozbul for the betterment of the world. The prozbul is a legal fiction which allows debts to be collected after the Sabbatical year and it was Hillel's intention thereby to overcome the fear that money-lenders had of losing their money."
The famous warning of Jesus Christ about the tradition of men that voids Scripture (Mark 7:1-13), is in fact, a direct reference to the Talmud, or more specifically, the forerunner of the first part of it, the Mishnah, which existed in oral form during Christ's lifetime, before being committed to writing. Mark chapter 7, from v
Copyright ©2000-2006 by Michael A. Hoffman II All Rights Reserved
The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."
The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be seen in the case of the black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians are very knowledgeable of the Old Testament. However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes' Talmud, of which the Ethiopians have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29, 1992, p.4:
"The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their way."
Because they are not traffickers in Talmudic tradition, the black Ethiopian Jews are discriminated against and have been forbidden by the Zionists to perform marriages, funerals and other services in the Israeli state.
Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most influential rabbis of the 20th century, the "unchallenged leader" of Orthodox Judaism and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish religious law). Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining more than 2,000 rabbis, "an entire generation" of Jewish leadership.
N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the rabbi's authority:
"Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to the study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva University's Elchanan Theological Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the Talmud...He held the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud...sitting with his feet crossed in front of a table bearing an open volume of the Talmud." (N.Y. Times, April 10, 1993, p. 38).
Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchik's knowledge of the Bible as the basis for being one of the leading authorities on Jewish law.
The rabbi's credentials are all predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. Other studies are clearly secondary. Britain's Jewish Chronicle of March 26, 1993 states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are "devoted to the Talmud to the exclusion of everything else."
The Talmud Nullifies the Bible
The Jewish Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written down in Jesus' time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees), because the Talmud nullifies the teachings of the Holy Bible.
Shmuel Safrai in The Literature of the Sages Part One (p.164), points out that in chapters 4 and 5 of the Talmud's Gittin Tractate, the Talmud nullifies the Biblical teaching concerning money-lending: "Hillel decreed the prozbul for the betterment of the world. The prozbul is a legal fiction which allows debts to be collected after the Sabbatical year and it was Hillel's intention thereby to overcome the fear that money-lenders had of losing their money."
The famous warning of Jesus Christ about the tradition of men that voids Scripture (Mark 7:1-13), is in fact, a direct reference to the Talmud, or more specifically, the forerunner of the first part of it, the Mishnah, which existed in oral form during Christ's lifetime, before being committed to writing. Mark chapter 7, from v
by Dogs Rules on 09 June 2009 - 00:06
Raymond missed the boat or is living in the past when my grandfather was young unions were correct responsible for making the workers get fair pay and raising the quality of living and wages ...they now are responsible for workers in the unemployment line now by out pricing the labor costs..the skilled trades you were involved in are a little different than the high school dropout making 80.00 an hour to put two screws in a door panel..and when you job is cut back you get ninety percent of your salary for sitting on your butt instead of unemployment like everyone else--the unions have out lived their purpose and are no longer in the best interest of the workers that they were founded to do now they are greedy ones and no way should Obama rule that the unions get take over control of chy instead of the folks who paid in to the company man that is not right. The supply and demand of labor should work itself out in this society and that is were unions have caused more to lose out in the past decade than actually help the worker.
Sitasmom you know your stuff the media is a big role in this MSNBC is leading the pack and the owner of GE will get the medical records contract under the new health care and make billions and billions along with Al Gore with the cap and trade he has invested millions and will make billions when Obama gets that slipped by the americans ...what happened to the drill here drill now tell me something since you are in Texas are the oil rigs still drilling or has Obama slowed them down like he did in my state of PA?? You know us clinging to our guns and religtion folks and rednecks. Yes we voted for him still makes me sick to my stomach!
Sitasmom you know your stuff the media is a big role in this MSNBC is leading the pack and the owner of GE will get the medical records contract under the new health care and make billions and billions along with Al Gore with the cap and trade he has invested millions and will make billions when Obama gets that slipped by the americans ...what happened to the drill here drill now tell me something since you are in Texas are the oil rigs still drilling or has Obama slowed them down like he did in my state of PA?? You know us clinging to our guns and religtion folks and rednecks. Yes we voted for him still makes me sick to my stomach!
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