Clarification on WDA members participating in USA events? - Page 16

Edited, because it simply is not worth any more of my time.

"Edited, because it simply is not worth any more of my time."

Translation: I couldn't articulate my argument or substantiate the claims I made so I'm going to take my ball and go home.  I just wanted to try to make a dramatic exit. LMAO

Thomas Barriano

 If you don,t like the rules voted on and changed by the political process set up by the bylaws then YES join a organization that you feel better represents you. Trial in those trials and compete in there venues. It,s really that simple. Whether you like it or not rules were changed you can work for further change in the system or and I quote

 "I'm going to take my ball and go home." as you so eloquently stated.

OR you can maintain your membership and work to make changes :-)
Especially if changes were voted in due to a stacked deck and manipulation of an outdated system.

Thomas Barriano

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 "OR you can maintain your membership and work to make changes"

 Agreed.


 "Especially if changes were voted in due to a stacked deck and manipulation of an outdated system"

 In your opinion not the apparent opinion of the ruling majority.





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"In your opinion not the apparent opinion of the ruling majority."

That's the point Bob. The JA was voted in by ONE vote under questionable circumstances in an election wihere only limited clubs got to vote. NOT even close to a majority of the membership :-(
Then when the next chance for a revote comes we can't get a quorum.

Thomas Barriano

and of course some of us small clubs sent delegates this year and of course too many people were too busy doing something else either training, sleeping, drinking or just watching tv, to show up to the meeting so some things could be discussed.  How does this org know what anybody wants? when they never get a chance to say anything?

Personally I can't see anything that this whole mess does to help anyone or anything, including the GSD.  all it is, is a pissing match and people hell bent on getting their way and for what?
I was a dual member for a number of years and trialed and did helper work for both org's and I have never seen anything happen at a WDA trial that didn't happen at a USA trial.
and when it comes down to politics influencing the big shows, they're both the same as the other.

Z dog

True dat :-)
Why don't we just get in Helmut Raisers RSV 2000 and start from scratch ? :-)

Thomas Barriano

Quote by Barriano: That's the point Bob. The JA was voted in by ONE vote under questionable circumstances in an election wihere only limited clubs got to vote. NOT even close to a majority of the membership :-(
Then when the next chance for a revote comes we can't get a quorum.

Thomas Barriano


Absolute lie.  Period.  The "next chance for  a revote.." was in Carson City LAST YEAR.  The membership clearly voted to retain the JA, as is.    Perhaps it would have been modified, were it not for the "usual suspects" and their usual counterproductivity.     Would it have been modified at Kansas City?  Probably not.  Clearly, enough people  were are satisfied with the status quo that a quorum couldn't even be achieved.   Otherwise, presumably, those delegates would have bothered to attend the GBM. 

Now, I really am through with this subject. I simply could not allow such  revisionism and misinformation  (to put it charitably) as Barriano was spouting to stand.

I will take my ball and go, now.  It is better served throwing it for my dog!

Did a vote occur in Carson City for the JA to remain or did it remain by default? As I recall the vote was split between multiple versions of similar proposals to at least amend the JA. None received a majority and the JA remained through default rather than by a vote.