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by Bob McKown on 08 December 2009 - 23:12
Maggie:
I,m glad you highlited the post of Pragers that you did, Although I don,t get all weak kneed obviousley the way you do when you pray at his alter I will give him the credit he is do and that is he is a wealth of knowledege and experience.
That being said I own now 2 dogs both out of Orry that he mentioned in his post. My Axel Vom Matschenka and Holly Von Der Bleuhaus both go back on Orry and several other high drive top dogs and they both woud be considered high drive by any person here they both live well in and out of there kennels and the house both can go in public and very approacable(neither poop in the house) If all goes well thru titleing and testting I will Breed them next fall and the litter will be line bred on Orry and I,ll gaurentte they will all poop where there supposed to. Again I make these asserctions because I own train,live with, these dogs.
So again I ask what dogs of drive have you worked and trained? So you can prove your only talent is not quoting others works out of context?
And again not every dog that is in Schutzhund is a "sport" dog I,ll also gaurentee both the aformentioned dogs will bite you for real with out hesitation sleeve,jacket,skin,suit what have you.
I,m glad you highlited the post of Pragers that you did, Although I don,t get all weak kneed obviousley the way you do when you pray at his alter I will give him the credit he is do and that is he is a wealth of knowledege and experience.
That being said I own now 2 dogs both out of Orry that he mentioned in his post. My Axel Vom Matschenka and Holly Von Der Bleuhaus both go back on Orry and several other high drive top dogs and they both woud be considered high drive by any person here they both live well in and out of there kennels and the house both can go in public and very approacable(neither poop in the house) If all goes well thru titleing and testting I will Breed them next fall and the litter will be line bred on Orry and I,ll gaurentte they will all poop where there supposed to. Again I make these asserctions because I own train,live with, these dogs.
So again I ask what dogs of drive have you worked and trained? So you can prove your only talent is not quoting others works out of context?
And again not every dog that is in Schutzhund is a "sport" dog I,ll also gaurentee both the aformentioned dogs will bite you for real with out hesitation sleeve,jacket,skin,suit what have you.

by MaggieMae on 08 December 2009 - 23:12
This is a discussion of opinion -- but according to you, I should not be allowed to have an opinion. This has nothing to do with reading between the lines and twisting anything. My Gawd, are you for real? Are you crazy? I am certainly NOT trying to create problems between Hans and others. I agree with him 100%. Grow up (mentally) Sue -- this isn't a school yard playground. "Oh, oh, please be on MY team, pleeeeeze." You were caught in a lie and now you are trying to CYA. Stop bothering me Sue. I don't like you, and I don't want to engage you in any conversation. Let's just leave it at that.

by sueincc on 08 December 2009 - 23:12
hahahhahha! maggs you are so utterly and completely full of shit, what lie was I caught in? You are truly disgusting.

by snajper69 on 08 December 2009 - 23:12
I don't know why we even waste our time on this poser. She dose not know what the hell she is talking about. Just another pet owner with no experience but a lot of opinions. lol go train some dogs for a change Mag (if you even know how to do that) lol.
by Bob McKown on 08 December 2009 - 23:12
Snaip:
She does have the right to post and comment but the most of us can back up too some extent our experience I,ve ask her where her practical experience comes from to back up those assertions and all she does is quote other peoples work so I guess you just need to consider the sourse.
She can,t back up her comments so she tries to twist what is said...oh well ... If folks want show dogs thats there cup of tea if they want working dogs thats also there choise and if they decide to do sport work with there working dog thats also cool.
If this litter turns out the way I,m hoping I may try some PSA or I,d love to some how get into K.N.P.V. work but I don,t think that will happen. Mondio would be cool too.
She does have the right to post and comment but the most of us can back up too some extent our experience I,ve ask her where her practical experience comes from to back up those assertions and all she does is quote other peoples work so I guess you just need to consider the sourse.
She can,t back up her comments so she tries to twist what is said...oh well ... If folks want show dogs thats there cup of tea if they want working dogs thats also there choise and if they decide to do sport work with there working dog thats also cool.
If this litter turns out the way I,m hoping I may try some PSA or I,d love to some how get into K.N.P.V. work but I don,t think that will happen. Mondio would be cool too.

by MaggieMae on 08 December 2009 - 23:12
Bob, do your dogs work for food, affection, or out of fear. My guess is that it would be out of fear -- fear that you may sit on them and flatten them like a Pancake !! Good day................

by snajper69 on 08 December 2009 - 23:12
Mag first of all if you would ever know anyting about high drive dogs they don't work out of fear, they work because they learn early on is the quickes way to satisfy their drive, they work for reward, and no no food if you have dog with good drive why would you want to get your hands greesy ;) thanks now we all know once again how little you know ;)

by Red Sable on 08 December 2009 - 23:12
Bob, if I remember correctly you have titled your dogs.
Snaijper, SueinCC, how many dogs have you titled, and to how far? Steve, I know you train your current dogs, have you titled any and if so, how far? Thanks.
Snaijper, SueinCC, how many dogs have you titled, and to how far? Steve, I know you train your current dogs, have you titled any and if so, how far? Thanks.

by MaggieMae on 08 December 2009 - 23:12
In Bob's case, it would be out of fear. In your case.....who knows / who cares.

by Slamdunc on 09 December 2009 - 01:12
Boy, the working vs show threads are so heated and passionate. 

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