2010 USA Sieger Show, Lake Geneva WI.

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by Mystere on 04 June 2010 - 19:06

Louise,

The spring time-frame was established LONG before the advent of a Universal Sieger title. So, that has nothing to do with the time-frame for the event. Even if it did, given the paltry numbers of Universal Sieger potentials (what's the most ever, two in 2008?) there would be precious little justification.

by MaggieMae on 04 June 2010 - 19:06

In case you did not see this Post by Uber Land on another thread, it is a quote by "MAX" -- apparently, he did not have the same Idea and Vision of his Breed that some of you guys/gals have ....

Famous Quotes.....
by Uber Land on 03 June 2010 - 22:06

Uber Land

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"...you cannot demand more from a trial otherwise it will become a goal in itself, a sport, and will harm instead of being useful to the breeding effort."
~Captain Max von Stephanitz

“Trials always remain trials, they can never be completely like real life, same as the exercise can never be equal to war. But we can all recognize if the leader and his troops are ready for the real thing, and so it is for trials.

It is the responsibility of the judges to conclude based on the exercises and the way in which they were solved if the dog is suited for work. Of course, the mistakes of the handler and of the training must be taken into account. Such a judgment about the suitability for work is useful for the breeding effort, but you cannot demand more from a trial otherwise it will become a goal in itself, a sport, and will harm instead of being useful to the breeding effort.

We must realize that we do not breed and work for exhibitions or trials but for our breed and to serve the general public (common good). Trial artists do not serve this purpose anymore than empty exhibition winners, and performance trials are to real work as a school exam is to real life as many pupils will fail in real life that excelled in school exams and had an excellent final report.”

(p.1130 Max v Stephanitz Der Deutsche Schaeferhund in Wort und Bild 8th edition 2nd replication print of 1932 edition, SV 1987)

by Red Sable on 04 June 2010 - 19:06

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Max was a smart man,- and could obviously see into the future. :(

by Keith Grossman on 04 June 2010 - 20:06

"Once in a while you will get a genetic throw back that can work. But can they produce that?"

Indo certainly did.

by gertv on 04 June 2010 - 20:06

Thanks Maggiemae, certainly some food for thought.

Please forgive me, but I just can't help myself anymore asking with tongue in cheek: Does Mystery have an eye problem or some other legit reason? She seems to be able to read and understand the "normal" posts?
"The spring time-frame was established LONG before..."

by Mystere on 04 June 2010 - 21:06

How about I just want to make sure that assholes can read what I write, to avoid being misquoted by idiots? Seems some can't even read the name properly, otherwise. Tongue-in-cheek, of course!

by divmstr1988 on 04 June 2010 - 21:06

thanks Diane you were right it's gone now.
Mystere all is good on homefront Oso living life of a loved pet, best boy I ever had.. thanks for asking

by Phil Behun on 04 June 2010 - 23:06

No storms, hot and humid partly cloudy. Got the whole thing on video. Gotta jump on the scooter to meet some friends for the hockey game,,,,,,,will post later.

by NobleLandKennels on 05 June 2010 - 01:06

does anyone know if someone posted a video of the performance test if so where can i find it thanks

by eichenluft on 05 June 2010 - 14:06

I'm competing for Schh1 with my black/red showline dog tomorrow. Hopefully he will get his 2 and 3 in short order, and then maybe he will be one of the "odd balls" competing alongside the working-line dogs and showing what showlines can do (a few of them) if they are actually trained and bred to have the drive and temperament to work, along with the pretty coat and tail and color to show.

molly

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