Czech GSD's with bad hips - Page 12

Hexe I understand what you are saying. And on the xrays that do go to OFA I consider the sending it in, anesthesia, tatoos and all a part of it. I don't like chips and I'm unsure about tatooing them by myself so I just wait. I wish I had some help cause I prefer to do it about 7 weeks old. So that's what I was going on.
I understand exactly about the pet owners and like it or not, this is who one has to think about. I do want them to have a healthy long lived companion. And I like what you said at the end about where we want our pups to go--I know if I sent one for something, Say to Kelly the SAR lady, it would end up having a job of some sort and it would be OK. But I didn't know about the sport world so much. Thanks for that eye opener. That's why I would never make it cause I fall in love with the dogs too easily and I would want to keep them all..............LOL and needless to say I'm not a good business person because of that. Oh well. Regardless I am going to keep plugging along--call me a crazy old dog lady but my dogs are my life and I like it that way--I am going to continue to grow and learn and just try to produce the best looking, physically and mentally sound dogs I can for SAR and service work and pets and keepers inbetween...................I always appreciate your input as you are one of my fave brains to pick...................

@Hexe, your definition of functional for this breed and my definition are different....that's why there is vanilla and chocolate. Just sayin. There's room in the breed for both of our views......there are many roads to Rome....guess people have to look at the consistent end result to determine which one they like.

Hexe, reread what I wrote. It's clear from your post you didn't see the point I was making. Nowhere did I say "all" or "none" or anything of the sort. I simply said it appears he DOES use OFA, in fact on some of his current young bitches. I think that is hard to refute if you go to the website. That is all I said. I couldn't care less what Hans does with regard to OFA, actually.

I wouldn't buy a dog from someone who needed OFA to tell them if a dog's hips were bad, personally. 

Or SV to tell you strengths and weaknesses in your dog, and therefore what to breed to.JMHO

Aadilah07 if you think that the hips are problem then lets OFA them and I'll bet you that  if Adela gets anything worse then OFA fair I'll bet you  $5000. If she  gets OFA good I'll bet you $1000. 
You have no clue what you are talking about as far as evaluation of hips goes. You can not even tell which hip is left and which is right.  
As far as Urf you are utterly  confused. Let me enlighten you. Urf's status was not changed on my website  and especially not because of you. But the thought  that I would change anything  because of pressure form you is entertaining.  LOL. On my website under "AlpineK9studs" it was always from day one A3.  That Urf has hips A was on JINOPO when they were selling his litter. It is/was Jiri's litter thus my webmaster copied  there his description. However under "Puppies4sale" it was and still is A  in older liters.In litter Urf x Alma I added A3 for clarity reasons. That was done at January 2012 which was way before your note here,  thus your pressure had nothing to do  with it.  It If it is marked  just A than that means that it is either A1 or A2 o A3 . To say that it is A is common in Czech. Anybody who wants to know more can dig or ask and find out what it is. For example here  On PDB it is  marked as  equivalent of 2/2 or A3 of A noch zugelassen. There are also other websites with such  more detailed evaluation.  Google it.  Or in another words A  is acceptable as breedable hips thus there is no deception thus I do not even feel that I need to change anything, except I am more detailed in my description of a stud under my heading of studs or in Urf x Alma litter. I really do not understand your  anguish about this.

Vonissk I agree.
I have educational post on my website on positioning of dogs for x rays for  that reason.
http://www.alpinek9.com/Hips.html
Breedes need to learn how to read the hip x rays. I hate to say it but most vets are not very good at taking x rays or reading them. You always need to go to the vet who is known for what he /she is doing in that regards. Even slight misalignment will make your dogs hips 1-3 grades lower. The biggest obscured culprit is positioning of the knee caps. But that is not where it ends. Learn, read books and talk to people who know. Take a digital camera and take several pictures of entire x ray at the vet clinic. send it to me I'll love to help you with my advice. Others here will also hep you. Post it. Chinese proverb says : Ask 1000 people and then make up your mind. 
I know it will sound like a shameless pug but I am selling on my website excellent book on HD by Fred Lanting. You know how many I have sold in 4 years? 3 books!!!
I know that the book is expensive, but I am making a  profit of  less then $10. Breeders should devour such books instead of just relying on OFA or other registries. Instead they are just stored  in my storage.

.A stamp in Czech will tell me only the hips are passing. There is a big diference in A0/0 clean and A2/2 something is there but still breedable. Nothing wrong with that, but if someone "forgot" to tell me the dog had A 2/2 instead of A0/0.. I would not be a happy camper!



I have had three dogs from z Jirkova Dvora / in Prague we had two more from Jipo-Me and would go back! So that is the "general" view I have of the kennels!