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by MaggieMae on 22 January 2010 - 19:01
Wow -- you think I am being rude because I disagree with you, and I pointed out to you the "political leanings" of Mr. Bugliosi? er, No, I was not being rude.
The point is that Mr. Bugliosi was not privileged to Top Secret Security Briefings given to our President and Members of Congress. If you believe that President Bush is a murderer then you would also have to include Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, Robert Gates and the House of Representatives and the Senate -- our Congress received the same Security Briefings and they approved the funding for the Wars.
Believe what you want. Have a nice day.
The point is that Mr. Bugliosi was not privileged to Top Secret Security Briefings given to our President and Members of Congress. If you believe that President Bush is a murderer then you would also have to include Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, Robert Gates and the House of Representatives and the Senate -- our Congress received the same Security Briefings and they approved the funding for the Wars.
Believe what you want. Have a nice day.
by raymond on 22 January 2010 - 20:01
Maggie why did you leave out Cheny?????? It is clearly obvious that the 9 11 attacks were engineered by a very resourfull enemy! ( 11 was engineered in order to go to war with countries who had no complicity with the attacks on NY!
by Ninja181 on 22 January 2010 - 20:01
"Oh you never told me who the players for the red sox are?????"
Well Ray Ray you never asked, you said something about Red FOX.
I thought you were talking about Fred Sanford, AKA Sanford & Son.
Are you trying to ask me about Curt Schilling, like Martha Coakley saying he was a Yankee fan?
Since you now know what maunder means I'll give you a new word. I'm an aficionado of the Red Sox.
Since your bailiwick is carpentry, go pound some nails Raymond! LOL
Well Ray Ray you never asked, you said something about Red FOX.
I thought you were talking about Fred Sanford, AKA Sanford & Son.
Are you trying to ask me about Curt Schilling, like Martha Coakley saying he was a Yankee fan?
Since you now know what maunder means I'll give you a new word. I'm an aficionado of the Red Sox.
Since your bailiwick is carpentry, go pound some nails Raymond! LOL
by raymond on 22 January 2010 - 21:01
no No it is not pound nails the correct slam is to "go pound sand" No please tell me who plays baseball with the red fox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What dates and batting average did the Babe have when he played for the fox's! And to bring you up to date on carpentry we never pound nails any more !That job is left to the air guns and impulse guns! Now have you decided whom you will vote for this feb?? After one year in office the only thing of import Obama has done is win the peace prize! Have you had enough of "change"?
by MaggieMae on 22 January 2010 - 21:01
I forgot Cheney and also the head of the CIA George Tenet. Raymond, I also do not believe what you do about 9-11. Sorry, but I think you drank the Kool-Aid with regard to the 9-11 conspiracy theories. ....and NO, I don't want to argue with you about it and will not argue with you about it. As I said to Ulli, believe what you want.
by Ninja181 on 22 January 2010 - 22:01
Raymond,
" Now have you decided whom you will vote for this feb??"
No because our (MA) next elections are in September. The candidates have until June to register. I believe your state has some in Feb. not here though.
I'm not concerned with Babe Ruth's Red Sox records. Many people aren't aware that he also pitched.
" Now have you decided whom you will vote for this feb??"
No because our (MA) next elections are in September. The candidates have until June to register. I believe your state has some in Feb. not here though.
I'm not concerned with Babe Ruth's Red Sox records. Many people aren't aware that he also pitched.
by Oskar1 on 22 January 2010 - 22:01
MaggieMae,
pointless to argue with you, I give up. When one dont want to see the truth, he never will.
And I guess you were priviledged to listen to these top security briefings first hand, no doubt in my mind. Get your facts straight, even Congress admits ttoday that they were given falsified facts, on which they in return authorized this unholy war. But since it is pointless to argue with you, I will leave it at that. But I want to add, I am more than glad that the chancellor of Germany refused to follow into this hole ordeal, even our Secret Service made the USA aware that a) Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11, b) Saddam is NOT firends with Bin Laden and last but not least c) advised them, that they had no evidence what so ever, that Irak has weapons of massdestruction. Hmm, or did I just dream all of this ?? Neverless, they did not listen. Then again, why do I tell you, you will deny it anyways, pointless.
In regards to your comments of beeing asthonished that I called you rude, all I can say, where I grew up it was considered to be rude when you charged a respected member of society with namecalling, and wanting a "pi***ng" contest. What excaktly is that ?
Obviously you also have a problem of reading correctly, I never wanted you to side with me, at no point. All that was asked from you, is research the facts, but maybe that is too much of work for you.
Ulli
pointless to argue with you, I give up. When one dont want to see the truth, he never will.
And I guess you were priviledged to listen to these top security briefings first hand, no doubt in my mind. Get your facts straight, even Congress admits ttoday that they were given falsified facts, on which they in return authorized this unholy war. But since it is pointless to argue with you, I will leave it at that. But I want to add, I am more than glad that the chancellor of Germany refused to follow into this hole ordeal, even our Secret Service made the USA aware that a) Saddam had nothing to do with 9-11, b) Saddam is NOT firends with Bin Laden and last but not least c) advised them, that they had no evidence what so ever, that Irak has weapons of massdestruction. Hmm, or did I just dream all of this ?? Neverless, they did not listen. Then again, why do I tell you, you will deny it anyways, pointless.
In regards to your comments of beeing asthonished that I called you rude, all I can say, where I grew up it was considered to be rude when you charged a respected member of society with namecalling, and wanting a "pi***ng" contest. What excaktly is that ?
Obviously you also have a problem of reading correctly, I never wanted you to side with me, at no point. All that was asked from you, is research the facts, but maybe that is too much of work for you.
Ulli
by MaggieMae on 22 January 2010 - 22:01
Ulli -- LOL, I know that Iraq had nothing to do with the attack of 9-11. President Bush NEVER said they did. Actually, it was some BS started by the Media and it took "wings" from there. I know you are not asking me to change my mind....and you are right, I won't. Were you in this country on 9-11? You said you lived here from 1997-2001. President Bush took office in January 2001 -- Clinton was President most of the time that you lived here.
I didn't want a P***ing contest -- It appeared to me that you did.
What "Respected Member of Society" did I call a Name? Who are you referring to?
You are actually SAYING that you believe OUR President is a Murderer -- oh, that is really respectful !!! NOT !!!
I didn't want a P***ing contest -- It appeared to me that you did.
What "Respected Member of Society" did I call a Name? Who are you referring to?
You are actually SAYING that you believe OUR President is a Murderer -- oh, that is really respectful !!! NOT !!!
by raymond on 23 January 2010 - 00:01
But maggie you are one of the best debaters on this site! No koolaid for me dear! Just cold hard metalurgical facts! the only place those buildings could have collapsed because of planes hitting the upper third of them is in OZ! No do not want to argue with anyone maggie 1 I have several friend who work at the underwriters lab just south of me at lake forest illinois who acessed that info on metalurigical tests results of the metal I beams tested by underwriters labs. No way those I beams failed because of jet fuel fire or any other non specialized combustibles! but you will only believe what yyou want! Nice talking to you guys!
by beetree on 23 January 2010 - 00:01
It wasn't just jet fuel but rather the compounded weight of one floor falling onto another floor and the cascading effect of the way the building was constructed. Once a minor weaking of one or two beams, that was it, the entire floor collapsed. So sayeth my DH. Who says this has been quoted by engineering sources.
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