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by Do right and fear no one on 20 March 2008 - 04:03

Ugly.  Are you under the belief that I said any of the candidates are sexy?  Or was that just a figure of speech meaning that Ron Paul is not appealing as a candidate?

He isn't a plitician?  Am I wrong that he is a Congressman?  Isn't he running for President?  I'm confused again.

What the hell does it mean because he has been married to the same woman for 50 years?  Is that another way of saying that he is not sexy?  If it is, Okay, I get it.  He ain't a movie star and nobody else wants him except his wife.  What would I care about that?  I have been with the same woman since I was ten.  That is 45 years.  That doesn't make me a good President or even a good person.  Just ask Sue Stink.

What I care about is my outlook on the wars we are in.  I firmly believe that we either fight them there or we fight them here.  Personally, because my wife, aunts, uncles, grand children, etc, are here, I would rather send my children over there to fight.  I have went myself in previous wars and my son has went to this war, against the radical islamists.  It is EVERY generations obligation to protect our country for the coming generations.  Much like protecting our planet form polution.    We could dig coal, drill for oil, polute the air, for the rest of our lives, and we will all be dead before the effects show.  But we have an obligation the the coming generations to cut that down as much as possible.  Same with fighting the bad guys.  They want to kill us.  Every one of us.  For no reason that is new, but just because we are who and what we are.  The Koran states that we must either convert to their religion or we should be killed.  What part of that don't you understand?

The trouble with just about everyone currently running for President is that they think that if they just play nice-nice and leave old Mr. Al Queda alone, he will leave us alone.  That is like believing that if we just leave the child molestors alone, they will leave our children alone.

Ron Paul, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama (dare I use his actual full name?) all want to "leave the child molestor alone and assume that if we do, he will leave our children alone.  Me, I want the child molestor confined, registered, incarcerated, or preferably deceased.

We took a sucker punch on 911 and dispite the hatred of George Herbert Walker Bush (see, I used his full name and no one got mad...hmmmm), we have not been harmed here since.  Coincidence?  Nope.  They bad guys are too busy running and hiding.  Try and get here from there, now that we are on our toes.

Bill Clinton allowed the "bad guys" to sucker punch us at the U. S. S. Cole and did nothing to punish them for it.  So, they sat around and thought..hmmmmm, we can do whatever we want to these Americans and they won't get back at us.  They are cowards.

We fight them there or we fight them here.  What is your choice?  There is no third option, whether you want and hope there is, or not.  There isn't.


by Blitzen on 20 March 2008 - 04:03

bump


BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 20 March 2008 - 06:03

Actually I think when we hear the second shot around the world .. "we the people" will pretty much eliminate your worries about the religion of peace there "Do Right". Ahhhh America's reset switch (2nd amendment) is a mighty straight forward read that will not be infringed. JMO. It's not about duck hunting. Fact.


by Speaknow on 20 March 2008 - 09:03

Well, Steve, as rational GSD discussion is hard to come by, a few more pennies worth here instead. You say: “But the 80.000.000 guns and weapons carried by the people of the USA is horrendous. What Government ever allowed that, we all like a free world, but that is almost akin to a free-for all. Plus, the crisis in the USA affects us all, more so for you guys but it does affect all countries.” Last cut in benchmark interest rate puts it roughly two percent below US inflation rate: quite surreal! If you want to know how we’ll fare in near–term, worldwide impacts included, if not also for pup sales perhaps, check out coming months US Consumer Confidence Index figures. If they stay relatively steady, or even improve, we should be all right: if it plummets, watch out! And now years-old television image of Chuck (Heston) holding rifle head-high, chanting “From my dead hands…”, chills my spine still! Truth is, democracy requires mutual respect, a free press, and integrity in observing reciprocal social compact. Given the gun, any idiot can destroy: creating something lasting and constructive takes talent. When the Fathers penned Declaration etc, they were yet much preoccupied with British might and mad King George, whilst fire arms were slow and cumbersome: if they now saw societal havoc inflicted by high-powered, semi-automatic weapons, I daresay they’d arise in protest as one! Yes, Ugly, I thought Paul Robert’s piece, albeit a year old, eerily accurate - in fact every point cited is now so much the worse (while Iraq’s war ‘out of pockets’ is now closer to one trillion). Regretfully, I doubt many here realize the significance of Fed’s recent actions generally, or Bear Stearns bailout in particular. In fact, it seems the Fed’s are adopting the same futile folly as practiced by the Japanese for longer than remembered. One point concerning US dollar oil contracts though: the Arabs got immense sums tied up in US dollar assets: switching to Euros and thus knocking the stuffing out of the US dollar, decreases proportionally the international worth of those same investments! For them hardly an enticing prospect! DoRight says: “I firmly believe that we either fight them there or we fight them here. Personally, because my wife, aunts, uncles, grand children, etc, are here, I would rather send my children over there to fight. I have went myself in previous wars and my son has went to this war, against the radical islamists. It is EVERY generations obligation to protect our country for the coming generations. Much like protecting our planet form pollution.” With respect, reads to me like mindless Bush and cronies hogwash! Al Qaeda practically didn’t exist in Iraq under Saddam, the country was never a threat to the US (mere Bush and cronies beat-up), whilst most Iraqis are desperate to just lead normal lives; if not petrified as to what happens between factions once US pulls out. Islam, whatever our attitude, is widespread and not going to go away; building bridges and compromise provide the only hope. The US has got some pretty rabid religionists as well! Since when did it ever give a real thought to pollution?! It must be all this Administration’s constantly-pumped laughing gas that Gore Vidal spoke of!

steve1

by steve1 on 20 March 2008 - 10:03

Speaknow

To me it was a shock 80.000.000 Guns owned by the Public, But you guys want it that way so its not for me to say its wrong or otherwise, Its a thing you have been bought up with and accept

Going back to hard times its been the same in the UK. in 1977 i bought my first house

i earned a Hundred Dollars US a week about at that time before stoppages of Tax insurance etc i took home about 60 Dollarrs a week

Bought my first house the interest rate was 12.25 Percent and it rose to 15.25 percent in the next few years after six years we had a slight drop

The house paying was priorty so eating came second i only tasted Meat three times in two years nearly became a veggie eater against my wishes, So we all get the tough times and i hope yours does not last that long

Steve


by Uglydog on 20 March 2008 - 12:03

DRFN...There was no terrorist threat in IRAQ.  We Invaded that nation ON LIES..

Ron Paul isnt "Sexy". He is a licensed MD, an OB GYN, Baby doctor. Who Campaigned with concerns of our dollar, inflation & Losing what our Founding fathers have worked so hard for.  At this rate, we deserve what is coming. We deserve what we permit. Too busy to care.

Fight them Over there?    50,000 US Citizens have been killed since 911. Last I checked the border is still OPEN, & thousands enter daily, unchecked, dont even have to take off their shoes & go through a metal detector like we do at airports..  THey said the same thing about Vietnam..."Better to fight the reds over there".. They'll follow us home, ear our children, rape our women. Give me a break.

"They" want to kill usecause because we Invaded their Nation ON LIES & Have helped over 1 million people die. We are building permanent bases there. We arent leaving.  Seems to me, Id be pretty upset if Russia or CHina built bases here or invaded us, On LIES.   Meanwhile, we print money we dont have, driving all prices up, to continue this Disaster in Iraq.

We can find Saddam in a hole after 9 months, but no sign of bin Laden. Remember him?  We did a CUT N RUN from Afganistan, diverting about 300,000 private & Govt troops to Iraq.  I remember it well.

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But make no mistake, as I said earlier, we have high confidence that they have weapons of mass destruction. That is what this war Was about & it is about. And we have high confidence it will be found.
--Ari Fleischer, 4/10/2003

"We have Not found stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction. Iraq did not have the weapons that our intelligence believed were there"- July 2004, Bush

"What did Iraq had to do with 9/11? Nothing,"
-Bush 3/19/2003

"One of the Hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the War on terror."
-- Bush, 9/6

 


by Nicolesowner on 20 March 2008 - 14:03

Regardless of your emotions about our involvement in the middle east, the cold, hard fact is that the current administration has taken the most affluent country in the world and plunged it head first into bankruptcy....and it will not be getting out of the toilet for at least a decade, no matter who fills the White House for the next 4 to 8 years. If your breeding business is dependant on the disposable income of the upper middle class, you would best start looking for a new way to make money, and back your kennel down to being a hobby for the time being. On the other side, breeding PPD's and/or K-9's could be very lucrative, as a crime wave is inevitable in a recession/depression economy.


BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 20 March 2008 - 15:03

They want to disarm us so they can have their way with us. "we the people" of the US Constitution are the final holdout of liberty in this world. Our founding Fathers would be mega pissed knowing we left the Courts by "opinion rule" change sovereignty from "we the people" to our Government. Fact. This is just one minor issue. Speaknow, our Second Amendment isn't up for debate, now or ever. There is nothing hidden about it ... it's right to the point and the Bill of Rights backs that point with what the FED Government CANNOT do. Think thou shall not's directed to our "enity", our whole Constitution is for "we the people" to Rule over or when nessesary abolish anything that preverts this Constitution. Fact.

The word "militia" is not a standing Army controlled by the "enity", it is in fact "we the people" as the last and final defenders of our US Constitution before Liberty and Freedoms demise. Fact. Our "enity" today is tampering with this fact, and in short is the last tamper they will ever do to abolish our Constitutional Rights, all in all, "we the people" will not take that tamper lightly, freedom isn't free, America's been this route before and our "enity" will soon realize they hijacked the wrong people's, yet again with totalitarian rule. Our Founding Fathers knew as their history proved to them via the British Crown that in order for a government to dominate and tyrannize it's people, they must first disarm them. So Speaknow, your myth of our 2nd is nothing more than promulgated Socialist views that contribute to the downfall of the US Constitution and the Liberty we know to be true.

WHEN, in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's GOD entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the Causes which impel them to the Separation.

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate, that Governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

"it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government ".... there is nothing grey about this matter Speaknow.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 20 March 2008 - 15:03


BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 20 March 2008 - 15:03

Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.
         ---Noah Webster Pennsylvania 1787   (80,000,000 Registered Guns Speaknow) is a mighty number of people supporting the Second Amendment.

Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American. --- Tenche Coxe Pennsylvania 1788  

[W]hereas, to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them; nor does it follow from this, that all promiscuously must go into actual service on every occasion. The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle; and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it, whenever they can prevail, no wonder true republicans are for carefully guarding against it.
         ---Richard Henry Lee Pennsylvania 1788

 

 






 


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