No more pointy ears for tsa - Page 10

Yes, actually Duke, you should explain. If you can. I do not have the paranoia some are expressing about the supposed 'failure' of other breeds being perceived as 'softer' by the public making those dogs less effective at rooting out suicide bombers and such; nor about Trump-esque perceptions of everyone coming through eg an airport as being a likely mass murderer for 'religious', or any other, reason. Nor am I hung up on today's society supposedly being 'softer' in the raising of its children, or other vulnerable persons. It is what it is; and if the authorities are happy with the results of doing things the way they are doing them (as they clearly seem to be), then to rail against 'the way things are today' and whatever damage those actions might do to the numbers game in producing any one breed of dog is not just futile, but pissing into the wind. Haven't noticed US border authorities being any better - or worse - at finding some of the threats than any other nation.

Hund, it isn't Pres Trump who thinks everyone coming through the airport is a suicide bom ber, that policy was set up after 9/11 when Pres bush decided our liberties needed to be scaled back ....on account of the gov dropping the ball on those guys. Btw, you must live in the beautiful city of London.

Tsa scrapping the gsd breed won't have one iota effect on the population of gsd. In fact, as I said before, doesn't matter what breed tsa uses...what matters is that they are eliminating them because they have prick ears. So that means not even pomeranians are allowed. I don't think you'll ever understand why discriminating because of physical attributes is so wrong.

first of all, the change is made, NOT because of previous dogs were not performing, or floppy dogs might be better for the job, but for NON functional(to the job) reasons. and it was not GSD only, but also malis and mixes

secondly, the new desired breeds are ,overall, not as good as pointy eared dogs, and more important, not available in the numbers desired, paperpushers think we have a K9 dogsupermarket here and we just need to go to huntingbreed isle and fill up our cart. the numbers are just not there, and paperpushers dont know/dont care

 

Third, you measure succes in GB on the fact what these dogs find, but ultimately it is about what they DONT find, if floppy misses a pound of drugs, its not all that bad, but what if floppy misses a pound of explosives

 

 

 

Another great!! post, Duke!!

Yep, it's not proof on the find pile that matters....it's the concourse blowing up killing dozens and maiming even more that is the real count.

Prick eared dogs have prick ears because of temperament and alertness....drop eared dogs....the converse.

What if the prick-y misses a pound of explosives ? (It happens). What if prick-y misses a pound of drugs ? What if floppy misses a pound of explosives ? Result isn't great either way. What if floppy FINDS a pound of explosives - we have them looking for (and finding) those too !

I suspect TSA s decision is based just as much on what is being seen to work for other nations, not just - or not ONLY just - someone somewhere who does not know about what dogs can do, making a decision based only on the one factor (prick ears). And budgetary finance, of course. But it doesn't matter if it isn't and you are correct, then TSA is just one (oddly rationalised) source of decision on what gets bought / put into operation, in the worldwide scheme of things. Not the total picture.

One reason I remain unconvinced by your arguments is because I'm sure the policy would be quickly reversed if TSA really cannot get enough of what they want to buy; and sorry, but I don't see that happening any time soon.

PS to Joan - haven't lived in London since 1999. What of it ? You don't think we don't have our own bombing problems to deal with, coming into London's several airports, or any other city / airport / harbour ? Don't get your 'logic'. Of course the main push in America started with 9/11 and of course Trump wasn't a factor at that point. But you gotta admit - he hasn't exactly helped the situation much since he has been in office.

How many 'successful' bombings have taken place on airport concourses (rather than in night clubs, concert halls, public transport and buildings, etc), anyway ? I can't even think of ONE blown-up airport as such, off hand.

He hasn't helped the situation? When was the last time we had a bomb go off from one of the religeous folks.
So admit what? Yes, he has helped make us safer than the previous admin. Thousands of would be bombers caught at the southern border now that President Trump is in charge.
How's the safety working in you neck of the world? Last I saw, in addition to people being blown up and run over, knives are a big problem there....maybe y'all should start training dogs to find knives before blood is drawn with them.

hundmutter: ...Trump wasn't a factor at that point. But you gotta admit - he hasn't exactly helped the situation much since he has been in office.

prager: What situation is that?

@ hund; Brussels, 2016

Hund, it does not matter what your opinion is of our President...like you said, y'all have your own problems ( which are not going away any time soon by the looks of things coming out of there)
And it certainly does not matter waht your opinion of tsa policy is. You guys get your wishes met, so all's good.