Drago vom Patriot - Page 10

twin macs,yes i understand your point but your point has been adressed,I can tell your not a big Drago fan or Bomber,no one should by a pup or dog just on hype but theses males are far more than just hype and I say that with not even owning a Drago pup though I,m looking for one,I have talked with some of the breeders that have used Drago with their females and they tell me how impressed with the type of pups he is producing and if you read temperment well you can see this in some of the vids that have been posted on the internet of some of his offspring and I,m sure not every pup that come  out of these males will be  fantastic dogs and true these males are not the only great males in the USA,you said you admire some males more than these in USA and Canada you should list the ones you admire for all readers to examine them also

Ya know when I read my post after I posted it I knew I shouldn't of put that in because I'm not willing to put a normal joes dog up here to be judged when the owner is nothing to do with this thread it wouldn't be fair to the owner. 

So I will retract that statement!!! but here is a link in my opinion of a really good dog that I believe is now in the states and it's not just this vid that impresses me but any vid I have found of him.

http://youtu.be/We6BxN4zZl4

watch and listen to the crowd on his escape obviously it's not just me he impresses, he doesn't just want to catch the helper he uses everything in his arsenal to stop the helper, also look at the speed in the long attack. I am not and nor do I pretend to be an expert but to me this shows, here is a dog that is giving everything he has in his work and it's not just heresay this vid is proof and it's on the big stage, I believe he got the highest score in protection at this trial.

If somebody can show me proof like this of the two dogs we are talking about I will be the 1st to put my hand up and say Jes your right but I haven't seen it yet.

I,m sure the dog in the video is a nice dog but i don,t call a video proof of any thing. I see a dog doing a very nicely practiced routine. I like watching videos of dogs work but i would not base a breeding or even an opinion of said dog until I saw it work or atleast had someone who I trusted with direct information about the dog counseling me. All the dogs in question on this thread appear to be nice dogs.

I have seen and worked this dog in the flesh and I was only responding to people asking me to provide some sort of proof to my query. I understand your point about seeing dogs in the flesh before you make judgment on them or indeed buy a puppy from them but a lot of the time it is very hard to do this unless you have the resources and time to do so,which broadly speaking most people don't, so I think videos of dogs working is important especially trial videos ( if your buying your puppy for IPO trials) where there's no  ecollars or prong collars. (Example if I was buying a puppy from say Germany and I can't afford to travel there to check out the sire and dam I would find it very helpful to watch as many videos of them both on trial days.) Someone posted above "I can tell your not a big Drago or Bomber fan" I WOULD BE if evidence of their work  struck me like  the video I posted above. Like I said I'm not bashing these dogs or their owners they have spent a lot of money and invested a lot of time training their dogs (I presume) which is admirable I was only asking is the reputation of these dogs merited or has it snow balled because of hype. I have had my say and my opinion is here to see and that's what these threads are for so I will leave now to I guess most of your guys delight lol

twinmacs thanks for sending vid,I couldnt pull the link up to the vid,but it sounded like Bob could so I must be doing something wrong,and yes vids are good but not as good of coarse as being there in person to watch a dog work, I started a new thread asking for breeders and/or owners of Drago pups to post vids of some dogs that came out of him,,hopefully we can get some links to current or new vids for everyone to watch,you can also go to Garys Kennels website to veiw some older vids of Drago pups. 

Yeah I'm not sure why it stopped working If you,copy and paste it into google/YouTube it will work, it's  worth watching!!! It's funny because that dog is out of a Wolfshiem dog. Agent vom Wolfshiem, was he beautiful to look at?? Not really, Could he work... Yes!!! could he produce???? Answer is in the video!! He only had 50 studs that's like a third of bombers studs so far and look at some of his pups. 50 smart people!! Looking forward to seeing some of Dragos pups videos on You new thread. I promise I won't post anything on that thread  

Twinmacs..... have you ever worked either of these dogs? Or seen them personally, not in videos, but personally work? 

Twinmacs I found your vid you send I think, was the dogs name Quardes von der Lemper Heide ? Competing in the BSP if so he looked very good, is this dog in america for breeders to access, his ped looks good perhaps a new thread should be started by you for this dog,as far new Vids posted up of Drago pups on the thread I started one in sport/ working cat.., but its a shame as of yet no has posted anything.Ive heard reports that Bomber is not allowed to be used by any out of house kennel females which is sad for thoses if thats true for thoses that want to use him in their breeding programs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QgaSqQgVBQ&feature=s

Here is new one from Australia

Nice vid link Bamadawg1,that one looks alot like the vid that user OGBS has shared with me,I,m amazed at the ultra high drive some of these Drago offspring have once again proof is in the pups,I,m still looking for a Drago pup of my own if I like the female side also