A CONFORMATION TEST in GSD WORKING TRIALS - REQUIRED - Page 10

Videx,

Our club is having a couple trials this year.  Bring your best dog and enter.   If you aren't able to make it, please take videos of your next trial and post them for us to see. 


I'm adding a quick note here.  My Boa's mother is V rated too.  Lots of V rated Kkl1  working lines.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/124957.html

Again I ask how would you incorporate conformation into a multiple breed evenet such as the FCI? In which other dogs may not have the same standards as the GSD? 

How would you apply them at an RH championship? ( search and rescue) or IPO FH Champinonship?

Again Just would like hear your answer


 

Since Videx seems to have missed this I'll repeat it.

Videx,

Our club is having a couple trials this year.  Bring your best dog and enter.   If you aren't able to make it, please take videos of your next trial and post them for us to see. 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/1663.html

what if the breed went back to 1968 - a beautiful dog with conformation that looks like it could hold up to work?

I remember, years ago, when I attended my first national sieger show.  I was pretty green back then, and actually had never seen a sieger show of any kind before that.  I was really looking forward to the bite portion of the test, as I figured these would be some of the best biting and drivey German Shepherds I had ever seen.  The first one came out and practically ran from the helper.  It did manage to get one partial bite on the sleeve.  Lo and behold,  a "pronounced" rating from the judge.  Did I miss something?  I must have.  The next one emerged, and pretty much a repeat of the first.  "Pronounced," again.  Something was definitely wrong here.  I was a rookie and green, but even I could see it was a joke.  Then a black dog came out and really stuffed the helper.  Now that was a good dog.  That dog had power and heart.  Then the great "Lasso" came out.  I had heard people whispering in the stands about him being the great VA dog.  Certainly Lasso would crush the sleeve.  The mighty Lasso would humble even the strongest of helpers.  The mighty Lasso came down, sort of hopped up, and bit.  I think he must have gotten close to an inch of actual jute in his mouth.  I could have almost stuck my arm through the gap left in his mouth where the sleeve should have been.  "Pronounced," screamed the microphone.  The people cheered.  I felt sort of bewildered. 

That was many years ago, and it still hasn't changed.  I don't care what they look like, and neither did Max.  Give me a dog with real heart, not something made to look like art. 
DCW 

Videx, Can you point to any showlines that placed in the upper 10 (or 15) places at national trials in Europe or UK? USA?

dcw- don't know what kind of day Lasso was having, if we are thinking of the same Lasso, he was indeed a good worker, and a serious dog.  I had a very fun and interesting personal experience with him.

It is NOT impossible for each breed QUALIFIED for the FCI World Championship Trials, to be graded for conformation by a National conformation Judge for that particular breed.

 

It is imposable! For instance here in the US the Malinois club (AWMA), that sends it’s members to the FCI, has voted against any type of conformation shows. Therefore they have no national conformation judges.

 

And if the FCI did enact some this as a rule the AWMA would still be sending the same dogs.

 Quote:  BUT  as I tried to get across in an earlier post the reason this is not happening is because unless they are also trained to perform in the show ring ( which needs much practice ) they wont win ........ exactly the same as the show dogs that have working qualifications they are also unlikely to win a working competition due to lack of practice and time

I will give you all the time you need and a shitter showline will never make it to ring three. Sorry, not gonna happen

I am still waiting to see these dogs that he thinks need improvement. Until then, I cannot tear his house down. Show us what you are talking about.