by Nans gsd on 18 August 2019 - 17:08
by bantam7 on 24 August 2019 - 01:08
It's really not a solid idea to do this. Very, very difficult to get your micronutrients balanced (macros are easy enough), and you will not see the impacts of many deficiencies for a long time (years), by which point your dog is sick and it is not simple to treat. Most don't show up on a blood test either. If you really want to go this route, have your veterinarian refer you to a boarded veterinary nutritionist, who will work with you to put together a complete & balanced plan, which you must follow to the letter, always the same ingredients from the same source, measuring weight of things in grams. The diet will be very expensive and time-consuming to make. Don't follow a recipe you saw online, from a friend, or in a book. Even those put out by GP veterinarians have been found to be unbalanced with multiple deficiencies.
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by Nans gsd on 24 August 2019 - 15:08
The dog food industry certainly has not done the general dog public any good with their ingredients and formulas. Can't could on them. Their are without a doubt in it for the $$. Not the health and well-being and longevity of our dogs.
by ZweiGSD on 24 August 2019 - 21:08
I do not use this (I feed a commercial raw) but would probably try if I ever decided to make my own. Thought the recipe creater was an interesting concept.
by GK1 on 29 August 2019 - 14:08
Nans gsd, i try to feed my family organic/non-processed. The dogs get the leftovers frequently, as well as a variety of raw protein, eggs, a little dairy, some plant matter. I don’t follow recipes but more so how the dog looks, performs during workouts and what I have on hand that day. I also incorporate fasting as I do myself, which is another topic.
I periodically refer to this page for ingredient ideas.
Your statement about the dog food industry is spot on. The information/influence campaign directed to convince the consumer processed bagged/canned food somehow offers complete nutrition - is quite sophisticated.
by Entwerfer Haus on 01 September 2019 - 11:09
Occasionally rice, boiled chicken and/or boiled ground turkey.
Do they get table scraps? No, I do not believe in that, for several reasons. Sometimes I'll cook up a roast and they may get the juice or turkey and they get parts of it.
16 years and I've never had an issue.
Superior coats, eyes and bowl movements.
However, I do not mass produce, either. 1 litter per year, sometimes, 2. 1 stud and 3 females. I don't recycle my dogs, they're with me for life. I may not be the best example to choose from with low volume turnover, however, my dogs are strong, healthy, intelligent and focused. Of course, it all starts with where you get them from!
by Nans gsd on 02 September 2019 - 00:09
by hexe on 02 September 2019 - 07:09
There's a book called Home-Prepared Dog and Cat Diets: The Healthful Alternative, by Dr. Donald R. Strombeck, professor emeritus from UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine, which I found to be an excellent resource. First published in 1999, the book eventually went out of print, but in 2010, Dr. Strombeck put the all the information in the book on-line, making it available to everyone at no cost. He provides recipes for home-prepared diets for healthy dogs and cats, as well as homemade alternatives to the commercial prescription dog and cat foods used for animals with specific health conditions.
by Nans gsd on 02 September 2019 - 15:09
by maofryan on 02 September 2019 - 22:09
My dogs are fed raw chicken leg quarters twice a day. Occasionally they get ACANA dog kibble (maybe every 10 days. I tell my puppy people (if they have one dog or two) to feed chicken leg quarters and scrape off the plates after dinner into their bowl. Nothing else is required. I have fed this way for over 20 years. I have had no gastric tortion, no cancer, no "stuck bones." You will never need a dentistry and you will never need anal glands cleaned. You also will find the poop turns white and returns to the earth.
There are no magical micronutrients to balance. God (or Darwin) has developed an animal to live on raw meat and bones....with occasional veggies and other odds and ends. No supplements (which are all about charging your credit card).
My pregnant bitches eat this way too. No crazy weird puppy deformities, no problems......none. Just super healthy, long lived dogs with great skin, character, drives.
Walmart sells 10# bags of human quality chicken leg quarters for 59 cents a pound. Not that hard.....don't overthink this.
BTW, I side with God, but I have respect for Darwin.
One of my puppies was tested by EMBARK for 172 possible disease susceptibilities/genetic problems. Know how many they had? ZERO