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by Blitzen on 14 October 2014 - 21:10
by Ibrahim on 14 October 2014 - 21:10
by Ibrahim on 14 October 2014 - 21:10
They used the gun a lot.
Was German beer part of Shutzhund routine ? 
by Ibrahim on 14 October 2014 - 22:10
I hope angulation will not be brought up in this post 
by Blitzen on 14 October 2014 - 22:10
ROFL. I was thinking about that when I posted the link. It would be interesting to know the identifty of the owner/handlers/breeders and the names of the dogs. Anyone know?
by Ibrahim on 14 October 2014 - 22:10
Ok, I am not expert on Shutzhund, I have few notes:
1. Handlers pushed the sleeve into dog's moth, some looked like hitting the dog with the sleeve.
2, Handlers actually hit the dog with the whip
3. Dogs did not jump high to bite the sleeve like some dogs do today which gives them more strong act in the bite
4. Nothing suggests those dogs were stronger/better than nowadays dogs, to me nowadays dogs show better bite, more sportive and more presence.
5. Gun was used even during dog engaging the handler
by mklevin on 14 October 2014 - 22:10
This is back when Schutzhund was Pass/Fail.
No scores, more of a temperament and aptitude test. Hence the jumping on leash and some of the other stuff.
The training was much different back then as compared to today. The gun sensitivity test they were allowed (encouraged) to bark at the person doing the shooting.
The angulation speaks for itselt. 
by Bundishep on 14 October 2014 - 22:10
Interesting vid the one thing that caught my eye is how hard one of thoses walls built were to get over it looked 6 or 7 feet high with no angle to it, glad to see gunfire used.
by hexe on 14 October 2014 - 23:10
matt, that was back when Schutzhund was exactly what it was intended to be: an assessment of working aptitude and temperament for the purposes of determining suitability for breeding purposes.
It wasn't a sporting event then, there wasn't big money to be made in it, and when the dogs weren't being trained or evaluated, they were at the homes of their owners, doing their routine chores of guarding the home and family and livestock, keeping the children company; or they were on the job with their owners, in the graze with the flocks or lying patiently alongside the owner's desk as he worked in his office...they weren't confined to a kennel run so all their energy was pent up and they would do anything to get a little attention...
In many ways, it was a probably much better era to be a dog. In others, such as with diseases such as distemper and rabies, not so much.
Ibrahim, I've never been to Germany, but legend has it that every training club has its own 'biergarten', both indoors and outdoors, serving up the product of the union of malted barley, brewers yeast, hops and water as well as delicious food, after training's done. So yeah, I think it's safe to say that beer has something to do with Schutzhund...and with Germany. And Germans. 
[And if the legends aren't true, I don't really want to know...it's how I've heard it described by German friends and relatives, and I like the mind's eye picture they created for me.]
by mklevin on 15 October 2014 - 00:10
Hexe,
I'm well aware of what it was and is. You however need to look it over again. SchH was never about breeding purposes. That is what the Koeklasse is for. SchH was a test for breed worthiness. not breeding purposes. SchH is a piece of the picture. The Koer ties them all together to give the suitability for breeding and the breeding recommendations.
The breed survey was introduced in 1922 I believe.
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