Crosspost - Page 1

This is a crosspost from another board about mixing other breeds. What do you all think about what this person says? Even the head of the SV said that the GSD needed malinois blood added because it lacked health and working ability and it was not getting better in either case due to people breeding for a pretty show dog. I can think of one person who has established his own breed over the last 25 years by the name of the Donovan and he did not allow any of them to leave his yard until a year or two ago. He will not sell to a pet home he only places to working homes. I can name many breeds that could use some genetic help. But the list would be too long for this board. The Dutch Police have been doing this for years. But they breed the dogs for working reasons and if the dog does not make it in the working world they CULL it from the earth. But I will say that this type of thing should be left to people like Donavan and DR. Raiser.

There are other ways to improve the breed rather than mixing in another breed! I think its uncalled for! Working line GSD has lots of working ability! Why is there needed to mixin malinois??? Why not to use working dogs of the same breed???

that just goes to show how little people really know about breeds and genetics !! a malinois is a malinois and a GSD is a GSD !! Both are very very good breeds --- but people do understand they are similar in respects as what they can do .. sure they can protect .. they can apprehend -- they can track -- they are agile --- BUT --- they are different ---- very very different breeds!!! if you have ever trained or worked one you would know what i am discussing .. mentally and physically/structurally they are different --- they think differnet[ cognitive skills ] .. they bite differnet -- their agiltiy due to structure is differnet . their sensitivity to trianing is different[ they are not generally as forgiving with mistakes ] - so someone wants to go mix behavioral / phenotypic / genotypic / traits .. for what aim ?? --- there are many good working line GSD with genetic variability -- and besides not every malinois produced is a world contender either -- they have thier breeding problems too !! and take a lesson from previous breeding history ... just look what happend to the Dutch Shepherds and the genetic disasters there ---without going into a whole genetic seminar -- everybody wants a quick fix to situations -- it takes time to breed what you want for traits -- the GSD has what a great working dogs needs -- it's there ---it's people and money thats the problem

I totaly agree with whoever said that from the SV if it in fact was said.As for Dominick,he has been around for a long time here there and everywhere,has finally settled down from what I understand in N.J. As for the actuall dog he has produced,I would have to see them going back a few years,I have seen several,nice dogs,I would stop short of saying he has invented his own breed of dog.It takes much more then just putting a couple of dogs with one another to establish a breed.

I agree that alot of the show dogs need some help in working ability. There are working dogs out there that have correct structure and super working ability. Why not integrate some of the working line dogs back into the show pedigrees. The same could be said about the working dogs alot of these dogs could use some help on the structure end. There is a strong division between the working dogs and show dogs. I thought these were all German Shepherds. We should all work together to maintain and improve our German Shepherds not to create a new breed. If we were to integrate some Malinois or Dutch Shepherd into our German Shepherds this is what we would accomplish.

First of all we need proof the head of the SV SAID such a thing. You won't find that recommendation ANYWHERE!

I agree with ALPHAPUP’s statement. But, maybe we should add some Irish Setter when you need more red.

Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred, Fred!!!! ecs