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by BlackMalinois on 03 March 2017 - 16:03
Over the last 2 years I noticed 7 certified GSD in the KNPV over different females with Leon Staatsmacht.
I,m not suprised with that very good result and strong genetics.
Like to see how Bolle will produce I,m looking forward.

by susie on 03 March 2017 - 17:03
A good dog is a good dog, no matter the "sport", and a good producer is a good producer...
Dogs don't care about IPO or KNPV, given a chance a good dog will be good in both.
by Gustav on 03 March 2017 - 18:03

by Koots on 03 March 2017 - 18:03
Gustav - how dare you fly in the face of convention, thinking it is the strong dam line and not sire line that is most important!

by Loriv on 03 March 2017 - 18:03
by vk4gsd on 04 March 2017 - 00:03
A good IPO dog is good at anything.

by BlackMalinois on 04 March 2017 - 05:03
@ Susie not every good dog is a good producer, we all know...
I have owned a Leon sohn who works now in Germany police department for a few years , brother
from King Haus Challenge
The whole L litter from Staatsmacht was exellent.

by Shawnicus on 04 March 2017 - 06:03
Vk4 😂 A good ipo dog 🙈 Any decent trainer can title even the shittist dog in ipo , maybe 35 years ago there were some strong sch dogs but not anymore. And i blame women breeders who can't handle strong dogs therefore refuse to breed them and keep the lines strong and die hard ipo folks and judges who want a purely sport dog ( basically a Black and Tan border collie ) with no hardness.
Thank god for knvp and a few Eastern European breeders out there.
by vk4gsd on 04 March 2017 - 06:03
I said good ipo dog not one faked thru a title.
And WTF, knpv doesn't produce good gsd, it tests them. they steal good dogs from ipo lines to test, read the thread title.
Leon and staatsmach are as true ipo as ipo gets all the way back, no contribution from knpv, BM can't admit obvious facts in front him he just wants to feel special for Holland.
If the east dogs are so great why are the breeders if east dogs all crossing them with WG IPO dogs but almost no decent WG breeder gives a shit about east dogs.
Riddle me that and stop trying to feel special with the east/knpv crap.
The top dogs and handlers in the world do ipo, you can not deny that and be taken seriously.

by Shawnicus on 04 March 2017 - 07:03
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