Has Science Discovered God? - Page 1

This video explores the latest discoveries from physics and astronomy on the universe and biology and DNA and how these relate to the existence of God.

From Christian point of view, the way I look at things is completely different compare to atheists world view; in order to know anything, "me-myself-and-I" have to start with God. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, says in Colossians 2 (2-3), all the kind of wisdom and knowledge is in Christ, so the fact that I know things actually exposes that I know God does exist but atheists suppressing the truth in unrighteousness says that in Romans.

Now, what is definition of truth? the truth is what is corresponds to reality right?
But the question is how do you know it's real? Atheist would say because it's keep working. Now in order to determine what's real people employ senses, memory and reasoning, correct?
Now, how do you know your senses, memory and reasons are valid? Atheist would say because it keeps working. Well, would it be fallacies to use your reasoning to prove your reasoning?
In order to determent if your reasons are functioning properly, you use your reasoning, but you are using your reasoning to prove your reasoning correct?
And so Atheists live in the world that talk about truth and about knowledge and atheists have a world view that God is not necessary for all those things, you can call world view or whatever you like, but atheists have a world view in which they do not imply God to justify the truth and knowledge, my question to atheists since you do not do that, how can you know to be anything truth without God? And this video is excellent that explains truth!!!

As usual, they're twisting words. There is no scientific evidence for design in the way they're twisting it Shtal. This is a pretty lame attempt and yet another colossal fail, try again.

The answer is no.

The more important question is; when did shtal discover the Rev Moon is God?

SSDD

NOTHING in that video that justifies its ludicrous claim
to inform us of "new" "discoveries" that have "convinced
scientists of the existence of god".

 

Nothing even NEW in the video.

hundmutter wrote: NOTHING in that video that justifies its ludicrous claim
to inform us of "new" "discoveries" that have "convinced
scientists of the existence of god".

 

Ok Hundmutter but your solution is better instead "intelligent design" like some of the known problems with the Big Bang theory, the problems are multiple; not only theoretical problems but actual scientific problems with this theory.

Number1. Where did the matter come from? What exploded? (Well they say nothing exploded) well then you don’t have explosion then you have nothing. You can’t even visualize what they are trying to say here, they kept getting that dot smaller and smaller till now is nothing that exploded; it’s simply doesn’t make sense. Where did the matter come from for the Big Bang? (Professors don’t know) Where did the laws come from? The entire universe is governed by laws. We have the law of gravity, centrifugal force, inertia, boil’s law, and gas laws. There are all kinds of laws that govern the universe. Also, you know we have Cole’s law. The main question: Why aren’t the laws are still evolving? Have you ever think about that? Why is the gravity always the same? The laws didn’t change, the laws are consistent. Now, if nothing exploded and made everything, not only it has to make matter for the universe, it has to make the laws, is gravity just built into matter? I mean how can you explain that? (Was gravity) Where was the gravity before the Big Bang? And if everything squeezes into the dot, what squeeze it in? (Well Gravity?) Well then the gravity was already their? Was the laws created by the Big Bang? It is serious problem. And where did the energy come from? You have to have matter and/or energy to create these.

Big Bang produces big messes. Now, the text book would teach and this is correct if the Big Bang theory is true the initial object had to be spinning, well this creates the problem; it creates the problem if it wasn’t spinning and it creates a different problem if it was spinning, if it wasn’t spinning and it just exploded then how did all of the particles clear down to the atoms pick up the spin? If it was spinning then you have another Big problem because the law of conservation of angular momentum.  If you have central access that everything is coming out, it should be rotating in the same direction; maybe you can picture in your mind a spiral galaxy, if there was a single Big Bang explosion, we would expect heavenly bodies, to all be moving in the same direction, now would there be an occasion acceptation to that, maybe something bump into another cosmic-body, I would say absolutely…But bear in mind with our own solar system, we got Venus, Uranus and I believe also Pluto rotating backwards from the other planets, six out of sixty-three moons here in our own solar system they are going backwards, in fact Jupiter, Saturn and Neptune they have moons going in both directions; you wouldn’t expect that from the Big Bang explosion. Now how do evolutionists get around this scientific laws in order to propone there Big Bang theory, one of the atheist fellow wrote a book called “the age of infinity” and to give you his answer, he said the Big Bang represent instantaneous suspension of the physical laws, the sudden of broke flash alleles that allow something to come out of nothing, it represents a true miracle, I would ask the same question why it is more scientific vs. saying in the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

To remind about laws of thermodynamics, the first law of thermodynamics “Matter (and/or energy) cannot be created or destroyed by any known means…How can you “create” matter from nothing or create energy from nothing. So far no one had discover any possible to do that, which bring us obvious question – well then how did the universe get here? – It had to had the beginning and we know that matter is NOT eternal, it can’t last forever, it’s always breaking down; but this first law of thermodynamics is really powerful proof, matter cannot be created or destroyed…Somebody made this world, and that somebody would have to be outside of time, space and matter. Unrelated to them, unconnected to them, uninfluenced by them. Outside time, space and matter. Many people don't like Biblical answer; in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. It gives no explanation for where God came from…And if somebody asks where God did come from. And I would respond that your question assumes that he had to come from somewhere, does in it? What if he just always been, and even the word always you cannot really use that in describing God, because that implies time. Any words that imply time would be improper when you apply them to God…You know where does God lives?, well, just the "where" (word) implies that he has to have a particular location, he stuck in space. Time, space and matter, three things that we stuck in, but if God is limited by time, space, matter or anything else he is not God which we know is not the case.

 

btw this was my old post and vk4 wrote a reply 3 years ago about this.....

vk4 wrote: shtal your rebuke of high-school science was outstanding, you sir are a genius,

Those are not "problems" Shtal, they are simply things that are unknown, period. Science works incrementally and there are hypotheses, but they are guesses until they're explored further. If a hypothesis is worked out to provide evidence and if the evidence is convincing enough to be put into a model that can be tested with consistent results, it will become a theory. There is even the possibility that we'll never know and that's okay. But it still doesn't prove anything other than "we don't know", you don't just pop the supernatural into the equation, unless it can be tested and put into a model with predictions and those predictions are measurable, accurate and consistent. If and until that happens, it's okay to not know.

OK then science is wrong therefore the entire video is wrong and scientists have not discovered evidence for god.


OR science is right and there was a big bang billions of years ago and then creationists are wrong assuming without evidence the universe is 6000 years old.

Which one is it genius.

Gsdtravels I'm going to translate what you just said:
You are forced not by science but by your ape priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation in other words the rules of investigation and such and set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive in other words no matter how apparently illogical – irrational, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated, Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for atheists  cannot allow a Devine Foot in the door. Why? Because you can prove that there is no God? No…no scientist can prove that there is no God.....period.....

No scientist can prove there are no leprechans, what's your point Shtal? Russell's teapot also comes to mind, please prove it doesn't exist. The burden of proof lies with the one making a claim and so far, you've failed - epically. You're also stealing words again Shtal, why are you a theif and a liar with no remorse? Though, it doesn't surprise me, you learn from the best swindlers of our age. When you build your house on lies, it's going to fall apart, you're not a very good carpenter.
LMAO :)