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by Bundishep on 17 July 2015 - 22:07
Is it very hard for czech dogs to have zvv3 in their title I dont see it that often ?

by Bundishep on 17 July 2015 - 22:07
For example a dog having is the title is Cordon An-Sat.
by joanro on 17 July 2015 - 23:07
by Donald Harris on 18 July 2015 - 05:07
Yes it's very difficult. My male Brutus full sister Bria has her ZVV3. Only a handful of dogs achieve this title each year.

by Jyl on 18 July 2015 - 07:07
Yes it is harder to get the ZVV3 title... There are hundreds of dogs each year that get an IPO3 title. While only 3-5 dogs ( last time I checked) a year can get the ZVV3 title.
There is no limit set each year on how many dogs can get the IPO3, unlike the ZVV3 where there is a limit. This is what I heard last time I looked into this topic. Things may have changed since I last checked.

by susie on 18 July 2015 - 09:07
http://www.lexicon.net/vonultimate/working.htm
The most informative page I was able to find.
The most visible difference between ZVV3 and IPO3 might be the crawling, barking, and balancing.
I found a video on Youtube - I guess it´s allowed to share Youtube videos.
I´ll show the link, because this may give us a feeling of the requirements.
Please don´t bash the dog - I neither know dog nor handler - it´s about the routine, not about the quality of training.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKW18f_EM8Q
It´s different, but as far as I see ( and my knowledge only results out of the internet in this case ) a good dog is able to do it.

by BlackMalinois on 18 July 2015 - 09:07
Fokus ze Zebraku ( Norbo Ben Ju x Chora ze Lipin) a SAR dog from my neighbor in Holland have all the titles ZVV 1/2/3 /IPO/Schutzund 1/2/3 and all
the international SAR titles certification you can get

by Bundishep on 18 July 2015 - 20:07
Thanks for all inputs, Suzie that link that you provided is there anything translated 100 percent in English ? So is it fair to say a ZVV3 title is very close to a IPO3 but with extra routines ?

by Bundishep on 18 July 2015 - 21:07
I did watch the video in the link provided and I do not know if the vid showed the entire excersize of the title or if this was just a small portion of the entire requirements for getting the title ? I,m assuming a dog that trys to get it must first have a ipo3 title.

by susie on 18 July 2015 - 22:07
Bundi, I really don´t know about the correct rules.
A dog doesn´t need an IPO title prior to ZVV, these are titles of different organizations, as far as I know ZVV is only common in Czech and Slowakia.
Same procedure as within IPO - you need to earn ZVV1, continue with ZVV2, followed by ZVV3.
Does anybody know, if the rules were officially translated into English or German at some point?
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