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by Tomiko on 13 December 2013 - 09:12
Hi everyone,
I would like to find out what training is required from 8 weeks of age till which ever age to obtain at least a few show ratings and sch 1....or maybe V rated...
So my question is in what order training goes....what he needs to learn first....second....until he has sch1...
Hope I am explaining the question correct...
Thank you guys!!
I would like to find out what training is required from 8 weeks of age till which ever age to obtain at least a few show ratings and sch 1....or maybe V rated...
So my question is in what order training goes....what he needs to learn first....second....until he has sch1...
Hope I am explaining the question correct...
Thank you guys!!
by Nans gsd on 14 December 2013 - 20:12
I would find a puppy kindergarten class as soon as possible and start with your basic obedience; Sit, down, stay, come, watch/focus. The beginning to all your dogs lifetime knowledge. Good luck Nan
OH and PS: socialize, socialize, socialize..... very important... Nan
OH and PS: socialize, socialize, socialize..... very important... Nan

by bubbabooboo on 14 December 2013 - 21:12
Watch the Michael Ellis DVD's on training with food and training with a tug .. watch them each about 20 times until you know them by heart. Most puppy classes are food and praise reward based and depending on your pup's drive you will be out of the food drives being a high value reward rather quickly. Socialization is indeed very important as is trust building so taking the puppy to new places and making the pup confident and trusting in your relationship is paramount .. puppy classes are good for socialization but depending on the system they use it may hold the puppy back if you go with an advanced system such as Michael Ellis or Ivan Balabanov uses. Balabanov uses a very good system and has some good DVD's that are worth watching and there is not much difference between their approaches. By the time the pup is through teething you want the pup beginning to value a ball or a tug above a food reward.
by sonora on 15 December 2013 - 06:12
Hi Tomiko,
1) Ensure your pup has had all the jabs and is healthy.
2)Socialise and expose the pup to different situations( loud noises, stairs,slipery floors, etc.) and enviroments.
3)Ensure proper nutrition and play.(with tug,ball,Focusing etc.)Keep play to very short sessions do not tire the puppy.
4) Teach him to understand your tone of voice for rewards and reprimands.
5) Join your local club(if there is one)and seek guidence.
There are many here,who have the knowledge and expertise
seek their guidence with an open mind.
1) Ensure your pup has had all the jabs and is healthy.
2)Socialise and expose the pup to different situations( loud noises, stairs,slipery floors, etc.) and enviroments.
3)Ensure proper nutrition and play.(with tug,ball,Focusing etc.)Keep play to very short sessions do not tire the puppy.
4) Teach him to understand your tone of voice for rewards and reprimands.
5) Join your local club(if there is one)and seek guidence.
There are many here,who have the knowledge and expertise
seek their guidence with an open mind.

by susie on 15 December 2013 - 07:12
Firstly what Sonora said...
I am against a " puppy kindergarden " - their training methods mostly are, let´s say, strange...
Right now your pup needs to get self-confidence - no bigger dogs "playing" ruff with it, no strange people trying to "educate" it.
YOU need to become its god, the pup needs to be able to believe in you and in itself.
For a "show prospect" - against human sense - it´s fine for it to pull on leash during the walks
- a good foundation training for its "show career" .
For sport some prey drive is fine - playing with a ball, a tug, something else, but only as long as the pup is interested - don´t leave the toys with your pup after playing.
Most important - try to join a club as soon as possible, hang around there, and watch the dogs and their owners for a while.
I am against a " puppy kindergarden " - their training methods mostly are, let´s say, strange...
Right now your pup needs to get self-confidence - no bigger dogs "playing" ruff with it, no strange people trying to "educate" it.
YOU need to become its god, the pup needs to be able to believe in you and in itself.
For a "show prospect" - against human sense - it´s fine for it to pull on leash during the walks

For sport some prey drive is fine - playing with a ball, a tug, something else, but only as long as the pup is interested - don´t leave the toys with your pup after playing.
Most important - try to join a club as soon as possible, hang around there, and watch the dogs and their owners for a while.
by Tomiko on 15 December 2013 - 08:12
Thank you guys for the replies.
I contacted Leerburg and asked them which dvd's to get.... However they do not have any on Conformation training for pups...
I have 1 more question....
What does it take to get a dog to at least be able to compete in the Seiger show?
What training and in what order?
what I am trying to find out is.... if your dog has competed in the Seiger show for example and you had to write a book about your dogs journey to becoming the V or VA rated dog, from the day he started basic obedience to the day he got his rating...
for example...
BH first, Sch1, 2, 3.... second and then what?......or is there a whole other starting point and different order that follows?
Thanks again for the replies.
I contacted Leerburg and asked them which dvd's to get.... However they do not have any on Conformation training for pups...
I have 1 more question....
What does it take to get a dog to at least be able to compete in the Seiger show?
What training and in what order?
what I am trying to find out is.... if your dog has competed in the Seiger show for example and you had to write a book about your dogs journey to becoming the V or VA rated dog, from the day he started basic obedience to the day he got his rating...
for example...
BH first, Sch1, 2, 3.... second and then what?......or is there a whole other starting point and different order that follows?
Thanks again for the replies.

by susie on 15 December 2013 - 19:12
Depends on the age of the dog and the country you live in.
A guess you are proud owner of a showline puppy - try to find a club trialing AND showing their dogs.
Your dogs needs
all its teeth
x-rays of HD/ED
if it´s a male - both testicles
standing ears
and a good structure....
Up to 2 years of age you don´t need an IPO trial for showing, although judges like to see at least IPO 1 in the 18 - 24 months old class.
For the working dog class you need
1. all the above
2. BH, AD, at least IPO 1 ( that´s not much for a show career, most of the dogs over here did earn their IPO 3 in the age of 24 months
3. a show rating
4. a breed survey ( showing without is almost senseless )
But, honestly said, a lot of things may happen, why don´t you just start to train, because it´s fun for you and your dog?
A guess you are proud owner of a showline puppy - try to find a club trialing AND showing their dogs.
Your dogs needs
all its teeth
x-rays of HD/ED
if it´s a male - both testicles
standing ears
and a good structure....
Up to 2 years of age you don´t need an IPO trial for showing, although judges like to see at least IPO 1 in the 18 - 24 months old class.
For the working dog class you need
1. all the above
2. BH, AD, at least IPO 1 ( that´s not much for a show career, most of the dogs over here did earn their IPO 3 in the age of 24 months
3. a show rating
4. a breed survey ( showing without is almost senseless )
But, honestly said, a lot of things may happen, why don´t you just start to train, because it´s fun for you and your dog?
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