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by Nans gsd on 04 October 2013 - 18:10
Has anyone watched the Leerburg list of video's on Michael Ellis's recall?? Just curious, is it worth buying? Thx in advance; or maybe I should ask "What is your method of teaching the "recall"?? Nan

by laura271 on 04 October 2013 - 18:10
I bought the Leerburg Michael Ellis recall DVD since I was hoping to learn something new since I think that a solid recall is the single most important command you can teach your dog. I didn't learn anything new - what was covered in the DVD are the same techniques that we worked through with our trainer. However, I recalled my male GSD from a fight with a coyote in our front yard last week; Bosco came on the first "HIER!" so I was pleased.

by Slamdunc on 04 October 2013 - 20:10
Nan,
I use the "two ball game" to teach a fast recall. It is the best method I have found over the years. Especially, when you start with a young dog but any dog can learn it.
I use the "two ball game" to teach a fast recall. It is the best method I have found over the years. Especially, when you start with a young dog but any dog can learn it.
by Nans gsd on 04 October 2013 - 20:10
Laura: Is Bosco OK: JHC; a coyote; are you in the north 40; well we are not and they are running around here also, really do not like them, and can be rabid. Ugh... Thank you for responding to the recall question. Still not really sure as I screwed it up already soooooo...now have to fix it.
Thank you Slam; where could I watch this being done; do you have a visual or anything? You know I was assuming that the ME video would have several methods, the two ball method being one but guess not?? I am from the old school and was done on long line and pulling them back into you upon recall command. Really hate that one; then I taught my female (sammie) a great recall method, throw the ball against the front door and she would get it and bring it back to me with recall command; also worked (sometimes) for "get it" or fetch and bring. OH: I forgot the cookie part, when they return the ball on recall to me they get a cookie or treat... She has an awesome recall, and is a retrieving maniac. Love both on her, really awesome. She (thank goodness) is a food hound so that worked for her. OK. thank you both. nan
Thank you Slam; where could I watch this being done; do you have a visual or anything? You know I was assuming that the ME video would have several methods, the two ball method being one but guess not?? I am from the old school and was done on long line and pulling them back into you upon recall command. Really hate that one; then I taught my female (sammie) a great recall method, throw the ball against the front door and she would get it and bring it back to me with recall command; also worked (sometimes) for "get it" or fetch and bring. OH: I forgot the cookie part, when they return the ball on recall to me they get a cookie or treat... She has an awesome recall, and is a retrieving maniac. Love both on her, really awesome. She (thank goodness) is a food hound so that worked for her. OK. thank you both. nan

by laura271 on 04 October 2013 - 21:10
There's an old post on here written by Slam that provides a good description on how to do the two ball exercise. (Thanks Slam!) I'm on my cell phone or I'd do the search to find the post.
Thanks for asking Nans- Bosco was fine from the fight. He goes from zero to full aggression very fast and basically pounded the coyote into the ground. Thank goodness I wasn't out with Senta or she'd likely be dead. Moving to Central Alberta has been a definite change from SW Ontario.
Thanks for asking Nans- Bosco was fine from the fight. He goes from zero to full aggression very fast and basically pounded the coyote into the ground. Thank goodness I wasn't out with Senta or she'd likely be dead. Moving to Central Alberta has been a definite change from SW Ontario.

by Q Man on 04 October 2013 - 21:10
"2-Ball" is a great tool/exercise to use...It teaches many things at the same time...*The Send Out...*The Recall...*The OUT...*Not to mention Great Exercise...
I think it's something that everyone ought to try...
~Bob~
I think it's something that everyone ought to try...
~Bob~
by Blitzen on 05 October 2013 - 01:10

by Hundmutter on 05 October 2013 - 02:10
Re "Old School" & long-line use: Nan, that isn't 'correct' use of a long line
anyway ? For everyone's info: if you use a long line technique for any part
of training, you never pull on it. The idea is that you, using the line as a
'brake' only, walk up to the dog, reeling the line in as you go towards it.
You are much too far away from the dog at the end of a long line to teach
beginners recall; you have to get it 'solid' from close to you and extend the
distance gradually. Pulling the dog in to you is self-defeating as its entirely
compulsory, does not teach the dog to want to come to you. And this can
ruin the longline as a tool for other exercises !
anyway ? For everyone's info: if you use a long line technique for any part
of training, you never pull on it. The idea is that you, using the line as a
'brake' only, walk up to the dog, reeling the line in as you go towards it.
You are much too far away from the dog at the end of a long line to teach
beginners recall; you have to get it 'solid' from close to you and extend the
distance gradually. Pulling the dog in to you is self-defeating as its entirely
compulsory, does not teach the dog to want to come to you. And this can
ruin the longline as a tool for other exercises !

by vomeisenhaus on 05 October 2013 - 23:10
Hundmutter... For everyone's info: if you use a long line technique for any part
of training, you never pull on it. The idea is that you, using the line as a
'brake' only, walk up to the dog, reeling the line in as you go towards it.
You use this technique for the retrieve also? some people have no business giving advice on training issues.
of training, you never pull on it. The idea is that you, using the line as a
'brake' only, walk up to the dog, reeling the line in as you go towards it.
You use this technique for the retrieve also? some people have no business giving advice on training issues.

by vomeisenhaus on 06 October 2013 - 00:10
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