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by Sunsilver on 10 September 2013 - 17:09
Just wanted to get peoples' reactions to this article: http://muttabouttown.com/2013/08/18/leash-reactivity-its-trainable/ 
by Hired Dog on 10 September 2013 - 17:09
In my opinion, all those "solutions" just mask a problem that is far deeper seeded. Dogs that act like on leash usually do it because the leash cuts down their fight/flight response and that is a nerve problem. Nerves are genetic so anyone who tells me they have a cure for this, well, I am very sceptical.
by Sunsilver on 10 September 2013 - 17:09
Can't disagree with that. But other than that, what do you think of her method? Pay particular attention to the final paragraph...
by Hired Dog on 10 September 2013 - 18:09
I think she is full of shit. Unless your timing is 1000% correct, you cannot gage if you are giving all these treats as a reward when the dog is doing all the negatives or as a reward when the dog is ignoring the distractions. I promise you that 99.999999% of people will screw it up.
And what is the harness thing about, why not a prong? An E collar in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing can work wonders in getting the dog's attention away from the stress causing distractions.
And what is the harness thing about, why not a prong? An E collar in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing can work wonders in getting the dog's attention away from the stress causing distractions.
by Sunsilver on 10 September 2013 - 18:09
Oh, but a prong or even a flat collar is going to damage the dog's trachea! 
And you are a cruel, mean beast for even SUGGESTING a prong! They should be BANNED!
(We need a sarcasm font... )
Yeah, essentially you are going to be rewarding the dog for the bad behaviour. And I don't think ALL dogs freak out due to nerves. Some just want to play.
And you are a cruel, mean beast for even SUGGESTING a prong! They should be BANNED!(We need a sarcasm font...
)Yeah, essentially you are going to be rewarding the dog for the bad behaviour. And I don't think ALL dogs freak out due to nerves. Some just want to play.
by Two Moons on 10 September 2013 - 18:09
I agree, totally full of shit.
If the dog acts this way it is because of a lack of proper leash training and socialization and that is fixable.
There is a time for rewards and there must be corrections.
I don't agree that all problems like this have to do with (genetic nervous issues) either.
Where do these people come from.
If the dog acts this way it is because of a lack of proper leash training and socialization and that is fixable.
There is a time for rewards and there must be corrections.
I don't agree that all problems like this have to do with (genetic nervous issues) either.
Where do these people come from.
by Sunsilver on 10 September 2013 - 19:09
The person who posted the link has a 130 lb. dog that is reactive. She believes in all positive training, and no corrections. The dog has had problems with reactivity since he started to mature. She blames negative corrections (prong,shock collar).
Her dog recently attacked another male at a specialty show.
So much for all - positive!
Her dog recently attacked another male at a specialty show.
So much for all - positive!
by Two Moons on 10 September 2013 - 20:09
Blames negative prong and shock collar?
Who was at the other end of the prong and e-collar?
Can you imagine raising kids on candy and sweet talk...LOL
Not saying a dog's like a kid but there are many similarities.
I stopped trying to give advice because people would rather try the latest gimmick instead of doing the work.
The dog's suffer, and I get pissed off.
Like the $3,500.00 nut job on the other thread, I'd take that dog if you guys took up a collection and bought her for me......:)
Anything to free her from the hell she's in.
Who was at the other end of the prong and e-collar?
Can you imagine raising kids on candy and sweet talk...LOL
Not saying a dog's like a kid but there are many similarities.
I stopped trying to give advice because people would rather try the latest gimmick instead of doing the work.
The dog's suffer, and I get pissed off.
Like the $3,500.00 nut job on the other thread, I'd take that dog if you guys took up a collection and bought her for me......:)
Anything to free her from the hell she's in.
by dragonfry on 10 September 2013 - 20:09
You know it's hard to stuff treats down a dogs throat with a muzzle on. It's also harder to control a dog on a harness.
I use the horse analogy. You can easily lead and control a horse with a head halter and bridle. But it's very difficult to control a horse with a harness. I mean really try stopping a horse with a harness and not a halter!
Same with a dog, where the head goes the rest must follow. Training a dog to accept and enjoy training equipment is important. The biggest problem is too many dogs are attached to idiots on the other end of the leash. Not the dog's fault.
Truly humans are strange creatures.
Fry
I use the horse analogy. You can easily lead and control a horse with a head halter and bridle. But it's very difficult to control a horse with a harness. I mean really try stopping a horse with a harness and not a halter!
Same with a dog, where the head goes the rest must follow. Training a dog to accept and enjoy training equipment is important. The biggest problem is too many dogs are attached to idiots on the other end of the leash. Not the dog's fault.
Truly humans are strange creatures.
Fry
by Sunsilver on 10 September 2013 - 23:09
dragonfry, the Baskesrville muzzle they recommend is designed so that you can give the dog treats. However, after having a look at it, I think it's also designed so the dog would be able to bite through it if it really wanted to! Plastic is flexible, and if the dog jammed the muzzle against another dog, then bit down, it would likely be able to get its canines through the cage!
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