Obedience without Conflict Ivan Balabanov/Leerburg dvd - Page 1

Hi,
We are soon going to have a new GSD puppie.  We have experience with dogs and GSD.  We have access in my area on professional trainning. 
Howevver I was also looking for something to complement real life trainning witha DVD or book.
So I would like to know what you think of OBEDIENCE without conflict by
Ivan Balabanov and Leerburg dvd.  On their website to me Leerburg dvd seems to target what I want:   basic dog obedience, raise a puppy from 8 week to 8 months,  Establishing Pack Structure
with the Family Pet....
In order hand I don't know why but to me the quality of Ivan Balabanov material(Obedience without Conflict )  seems to be very good  and high quality however do they cover, puppy stage, the pack structure...???
To me it's not clear what it cover exactly. :

Obedience Without Conflict with Ivan Balabanov Video 1- Clear Communication

This video production features one of today's most prominent and successful dog sport competitors and coaches. Ivan's techniques for creating crystal clarity in communication between handler and dog are detailed. True partnership is attained when the conflict of miscommunication is broken through common language.

This beautiful production details:
• how to establish clear communication with your dog
• how to use the release command as a bridge
• the proper use of the release command, reassurance command, and reward
• the relationship between fast performance, the release, and reward
• the interaction between primary, secondary, and tertiary reinforcers
• the use of signaled non-reward
• the relationship between "passive" and "active" obedience exercises
• an introduction to "The Game"

And because these DVD aren't cheap  I would like to ask advice and personnal experience before making my choice.  I' m open to other idea in term of books & DVD.
Is Obedience Without Conflict with Ivan Balabanov primary odience can be familly or it's more for professional???

Thanks in advance.



 
 

storm,
what kind of experience with GSD's do you have?

What exactly are you looking for?

Personally I would not spend that kind of money on a DVD.

Moons.

leerburg.com
the power of training with markers
the power of training with food
the power of training with toys
 
i love these DVD's and if you want to develope a sport or competition dog they are very helpful in teaching operand(sp?) conditioning.....
 
plus it's a fun way to train for both me and my dogs.....

Hi,

thanks Sitamom I will take a look at these video.
Moon : I just want be expose to another source of learning than local professional dog trainner.  I'm not a professional but I want to learn...
The question about the what everything : it can be from general obedience, communication technique, focus, play time, dog communicatio,  Pack struture around the familly.

I'm not saying that local dog trainning aren't good it's just that  I think  there is nothing wrong with the desire to learn more and being expose to different method, technique and knowledge.

I think pedigreedatabase is a great source of all kind of knowledge, tips & techniques.  I know  some can be good, some should be taken with a grain of salt but it's a forum where a lot of people around the world share a common passion.  I realisize that nobody have the same opinion or idea on something. 

That was just my goal.
Thanks

A grain of salt, sound thinking.
Most raising and training is common sense, the simpler the better.
You said you had some experience, and learning more is good.
Just remember that grain of salt.
Good luck,
Moons.

The word you are looking for is: operant, the meaning in this case would be, "behavior or responses that operate on the environment to produce rewarding and reinforcing effect."

(Operand can be a math or computer term, I just learned that, myself. Or I might have have known the math term once long ago, but forgot it.)

My wife and myself have a 4 month old pup Malinois.  We're struggling with a few things.  We aren't new to dogs, but this is our first experience raising a pup.

We've got him involved in puppy classes for socialization and basic training appropriate for his age group.  The instructor is also availing some extra time for us when needed.

I've always been one to affirm the positive outcomes of resourcing as much information from various sources as possible, disceminating the positives and sifting out the negatives and finally applying a combination of common sense.

We've found over the past few years that you can't always believe what you read on the interweb, watch on videos, face to face with people, etc.  This was in regards to plumbing, finances, cancer, etc.

At some point you have to garner as much information as you can and make your own educated decisions.  Some will work out, some won't.  Others will agree with them, others won't.



Anyhoo, with regards to the Leerburg videos we just started watching them last night.  I was very impressed with the information on them.  Several times throughout the puppy vid, my wife and I looked at each other and went "oops, wow we've been screwing that up haven't we."  We're learning.  I would strongly recommend these videos.

The production budget must have been pretty low, which is kind of amusing.  Spelling errors abound, his microphone must have been bought from the bargain bin at Radio Shack.

Otherwise, we're looking forward to finishing the puppy vid and moving onto the dominant dog one as this is clearly an issue we are facing.

Just my thoughts.

Obedience without Conflict is the best by far training video set that I have ever seen.  Balabanov's own performance at world comeptition speaks for itself.  I have VERY VERY possessive dogs and I taught them to out without any corrections at all using this method.  I LOVE his DVD set OB w/o conflict!!!! 

Thanks a lot for all your answer.  I will try probably Obedience without Conflict Ivan Balabanov the first one and see.

WAIT...Balabanov won't teach you pack structure etc.  For raising a puppy, Leerburg is sort of ok but he says some horrible things he now does not believe (like shaking a puppy) now that he is a convert to clicker/marker positive training.  So if you get the video, take it with a grain of salt as people have said..or a lot more than a grain.  The bite training and later building drive/grip/focus are good and Balabanov is fantastic, but not really for pack structure etc.  The best house breaking methods are found right here on the PDB, many of us have outlined the easiest ways to do that without any punishment that are the best I have seen anywhere. 
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/forum.read?mnr=150439#150594

As usual Sita's Mom suggestions are very good  even if you don't want a working pup (Balabanov is geared toward working/competition obedience)

Make sure you do this right away:
http://dogscouts.org/Indirect_Access.html

and establishing pack structure/bonding articles:

http://dogpsychologyhelp.com/doghumancommunication.aspx

and lots of links articles:

http://www.bodeus.com/links.htm