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by Vixen on 20 October 2011 - 19:10
While away for a few days, I contacted an Obedience Club in the area I was staying to ask if I could visit. I was very surprised to discover that the top two Classes had decided to have indoor Agility for that evening. They said it was to keep the people interested and not get bored. BORED????? Surely, if people are getting bored there is something going amiss in the training work at the Club, or the Trainer not noticing or giving appropriate help and guidance where needed.
I realise some people might not mind. But if I was a Member of an Agility Club, I would not expect that sometimes we did Obedience instead. So vice-versa!
What if I was someone visiting with view to consider joining, based on their skill, knowledge and ability, and wanted to watch more than one Class, to observe the standard of progression? Would not have discovered much, other than dogs jumping & weaving!
Regards,
Vixen
I realise some people might not mind. But if I was a Member of an Agility Club, I would not expect that sometimes we did Obedience instead. So vice-versa!
What if I was someone visiting with view to consider joining, based on their skill, knowledge and ability, and wanted to watch more than one Class, to observe the standard of progression? Would not have discovered much, other than dogs jumping & weaving!
Regards,
Vixen
by Chaz Reinhold on 20 October 2011 - 20:10
Sometimes it is good for the dog. It's not always about the handlers.
by Vixen on 20 October 2011 - 20:10
A good Handler can enhance the relationship and work, and bring out more, even from a less co-operative dog.
A poor Handler can drag down or lose respect of even a keen dog.
One or two hours at Club (once or twice a week) is surely not detrimental to a dog? Is it not good that he/she is interacting with the Handler. Both looking to improve and progress their work together, both light and intricate.
(Play around with some jumps and weaving at no cost in the garden or a Park)
Regards,
Vixen
A poor Handler can drag down or lose respect of even a keen dog.
One or two hours at Club (once or twice a week) is surely not detrimental to a dog? Is it not good that he/she is interacting with the Handler. Both looking to improve and progress their work together, both light and intricate.
(Play around with some jumps and weaving at no cost in the garden or a Park)
Regards,
Vixen
by Chaz Reinhold on 20 October 2011 - 20:10
You just lost me there.
by DannyJ on 20 October 2011 - 21:10
Don't seem like a problem to me.. Dogs get bored, I don't care how good of a trainer you are. You get bored, fact of life. Look how many dogs get bored with regular ole protection, you do some crazy fun out of the norm stuff and they just soak it up.
You get sick of eating the same every wouldn't you?
Dan Juros
You get sick of eating the same every wouldn't you?
Dan Juros
by Chaz Reinhold on 20 October 2011 - 22:10
That was my point, Dan. I know people that have their dog do tricks in the middle of their heeling to keep them focused and in drive.
by Vixen on 20 October 2011 - 22:10
Dogs "get bored" - with what? Not with honesty and fairness, and on gaining their respect can lead the dog in direction of working well. Equally, dogs cannot be duped, they know if the Handler is trying to win them over, by inspiration to please. The dog knows "got ya"! He/she enjoys what he feels like enjoying, but sometimes see a lack of obedience response elsewhere. Or lack of attention/focus, lethargic slow attitude, general disrespect which will lack lustre, messing up, etc... to convince the Owner to up the persuasion stakes!
"Trainer get bored"???? I don't think so! Personally, I do not just teach dogs or other Owners with their dogs, how to teach merely the 'exercises'. I am committed to dog behaviour, and help Owners to incorporate this into their training, which thereby helps the dogs too. We learn from our own dogs, and we learn from each other and their dogs. Training should not mean repeating over and over what the dog already knows (dogs are not goldfish with a serious short memory). Working with our dogs is a constant awareness and challenge - to read them, and ourselves too - and move forward, otherwise both are only treading water!
Regards,
Vixen
"Trainer get bored"???? I don't think so! Personally, I do not just teach dogs or other Owners with their dogs, how to teach merely the 'exercises'. I am committed to dog behaviour, and help Owners to incorporate this into their training, which thereby helps the dogs too. We learn from our own dogs, and we learn from each other and their dogs. Training should not mean repeating over and over what the dog already knows (dogs are not goldfish with a serious short memory). Working with our dogs is a constant awareness and challenge - to read them, and ourselves too - and move forward, otherwise both are only treading water!
Regards,
Vixen
by Chaz Reinhold on 20 October 2011 - 22:10
Vixen, if you have a video of your dog, i'd love to see it. What are you training for. I get the feeling, you and I have different goals/philosophies, etc.
by Vixen on 20 October 2011 - 22:10
Yes, I do feel our requirements and relationship with our dogs are probably different. But importantly, you are obviously happy with both, (as I am).
Regards,
Vixen
Regards,
Vixen
by Chaz Reinhold on 20 October 2011 - 23:10
Where can you draw anything about the relationship with my dog?
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