Orlando Shooting - Page 6

And then there is this little beauty. This Christian minister vehemently opposed gays but look what he was caught doing and then he had the nerve to blame the internet. http://katv.com/news/local/former-local-pastor-faces-70-counts-of-child-porn

This is the shit that breeds hate and you folks wonder why so many people are running away from Christianity. SMH!

The Orlando shooter was filled with hate, was it because he was concerned he may be gay? Was he suddenly in line with ISIS?  We may never know what motivated his hatred.

I do believe that no one on the terrorism watch list should be allowed to buy guns.  That said, I am very pro second amendment.  Funny how countries that enforce responsible gun ownership and teach this to the children as well have low violence rates while countries that ban guns have higher violence rates.  Same with states and strict gun laws/ban experiencing more violence than states without strict gun laws/ban. As for the gunman who took hostages in Texas Wal-Mart, no injuries and he is history.  Texas doesn't screw around.   Hmmmmm

As for the shooter's wife, she was placed in special education from kindergarten on I believe, had learning disabilities, and her teachers and other adults who knew her stated she does not have the capacity to understand cause and effect (possibly severe ASD or ID?).  How her family allowed her to marry someone like the shooter is beyond me.  Having worked with children and adults like this, they truly don't get cause and effect or consequences, especially of a complex nature.

It isn't just Texas, you point a gun at law enforcement and you are dead or seriously wounded. Hmmmm. The second amendment gives you the right to own weapons. It doesn't spell out what type of weapons. So, in your thinking on this RPGs, flame throwers and missile launchers being weapons/firearms should be made available to the public? I don't think so, while we are in such a hurry to trip over ourselves to protect the 2nd lets forget about all these mass shootings with assault type rifles. The second is a joke because our forefathers could not foresee these types of weapons. I do love those that say these type of weapons keep us from tyranny, okay?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/20/paul-ryan-obama-release-uncensored-terror-transcripts/

 

http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/06/20/andy-mccarthy-scrubbing-islam-isis-orlando-jihadis-911-call-shows-government-becoming-sharia-adherent/

wow, maybe they didn't release it yet because it would be painful for the survivors to hear and those burying the dead in the last week to have to hear. Where is your compassion for the victims? I would think you would understand that being a woman. I have heard how woman have more compassion than men but your posts clearly show that is not the case. I will add this - you and Red seriously need to get off those sites because at this point there is only a slim difference between you guys and extremism. Which then makes you not much better than the people you rail on.

GDSADmin, from previous threads, I know gun control is a sensitive area for you (no insult intended). However, let's please see that the gun laws on the books need to be enforced.  Fully automatic weapons, flame throwers, and missile launchers have been illegal for civilians for many many years so not sure what your point was there. Second amendment was designed to keep the government from overtaking the country, usually the first step is disarming the citizens,  My mother lived through WWII and one of the first things was to confiscate all the weapons.   Ok the rest is not directed at you GDSAdmin

As for all the mass shootings, those are a recent thing, I blame it on the poor quality of food, all the pesticides, chemicals, and so forth (you are what you eat, your mood comes from what you eat, nutrition influences embryonic cognitive development as it does throughout childhood).  Poor education, let's keep teaching to the test and avoid any of the arts such as reading the classics, drama, art, and of course philosophy which teaches critical thinking.  Let's continue to incarcerate in for-profit prisons without any hope of therapy or reeducation and the highest rate of the world. Let's destroy the middle class so  that there is a two class system with the 1% making 99% of the money which leaves most without hope  for a better future than their parents had (totally different from when I was growing up and there was hope that I could do better than my parents).  With more families worrying about where they will live, how they will feed their children, how they will keep their children healthy, you will continue to see more abuse or neglect. Most middle class families are one disaster away from poverty, by disaster, I mean illness, injury, fire, flood, death, etc.  If a child is not taught the value of life and property, if a child is not shown respect and love, how is that child going to grow up into anything other than a carbon copy of the neglect or abuse?  

So by all means, let's continue to blame guns.  Let's outlaw all gun ownership, let's make all guns illegal, I mean it worked so well with drugs and the current drug epidemic......

No one wants to make guns illegal especially me. But I see no reason to have semi-automatic guns on the streets. They were illegal and it worked to keep them out of some criminal hands. Now, any non-citizen, no fly list or pretty much any one without a felony can buy them. Name me one good reason to have these rifles on the streets.

BTW, comparing a war on drugs and an assault rifle ban are like comparing apples and oranges. Most people can't get euphoric on guns but drugs have that pull.

I have an idea. Let's make murder illegal. And drugs in prison. Oh wait . It already is illegal. How is that working out? Do you think that making guns illegal will  stop this type of things. BTW the gun used in Orlando was not AR 15 but sig sauer MCX By the  way in tight quarters handgun would be better choice then long gun and I would not be surprised to find out that most victims  were shot by his handgun  legally obtained. If the guns  would not be on this world available to criminals ( - silly thought) , then explosive ( Oklahoma fertilizer bomb killer  168 ! bus ,plane could be used.  WHAT GUNS  THEY HAD DURING 9/11 BOX CUTTERS!!! =>>>2,977 dead no GUN!. 

 It is extremely naive to think that lack of guns will stop a nut case like this from killing. Criminals will always have guns anyway.

BTW too say that all religions extreme or not religions can do this is ridiculous I do not see any Christians, Buddhists, Hindus or Zharatrhrustrans, burning and cutting people's head off with rusty dull knife on YouTube and letting little children play with severed head playing sacker, and stoning gays and throwing them off the roofs and oppressing women and raping little girls and mutilating their genitals and on and on and on as part of their religions.
And please spare me of Timothy McVeigh was Christian argument . His motivation was not religious but it was antigovernment.
This guy and myriads of others like him were muslim> He was self proclaimed Muslim . And he said he has done this because of Islam. To blame it on him being unstable or not is irrelevant. I know many unstable people and they are not shooting up gay clubs.
Also someone said there that we do not need to name the enemy. LOL We must name it so that we can defend ourselves from it. it is government's job to identify our enemy. I wish all would watch the video which Joan posted earlier. .