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by fawndallas on 20 March 2014 - 18:03
LOL - I thought Jeffs really used a banana. It sounded odd, but I am not familiar with shows, so maybe it was something about them.
From my perspective, I stopped using the choke chain mainly because every dog ignored it. Now I use the pinch only when my 3 males go through the "I am not listening, as I am an A**hole" stage. Max needed it for the 2nd time this week in training (class not fence, for those following my other thread), 1 correction and it was back to "Yes, Fawnda, I know what you are wanting and I will do it fast." Baron needs it about every 3 months as a reminder that my arms are not for pulling off.
From my perspective, I stopped using the choke chain mainly because every dog ignored it. Now I use the pinch only when my 3 males go through the "I am not listening, as I am an A**hole" stage. Max needed it for the 2nd time this week in training (class not fence, for those following my other thread), 1 correction and it was back to "Yes, Fawnda, I know what you are wanting and I will do it fast." Baron needs it about every 3 months as a reminder that my arms are not for pulling off.
by HighDesertGSD on 20 March 2014 - 20:03
I hope I did the correct thing.
I ordered a Herm Sprenger Medium 21 inch with quick snap opening.
I think with the quick snap I will not need to open at one of the prongs every time I put it on (otherwise I will need to).
Medium is 3.00 mm. Large is 3.20 mm. I would have ordered large if not for the advise given here. I trust that medium is strong enough for a lean 85-90 pound male GSD.
My pup is now about a little less than 25.5 inches tall now. Look like he is still getting taller at almost 9 months old ( 267 days). May be he will be 26.25 " at maturity, like his sire.
I ordered a Herm Sprenger Medium 21 inch with quick snap opening.
I think with the quick snap I will not need to open at one of the prongs every time I put it on (otherwise I will need to).
Medium is 3.00 mm. Large is 3.20 mm. I would have ordered large if not for the advise given here. I trust that medium is strong enough for a lean 85-90 pound male GSD.
My pup is now about a little less than 25.5 inches tall now. Look like he is still getting taller at almost 9 months old ( 267 days). May be he will be 26.25 " at maturity, like his sire.
by SitasMom on 20 March 2014 - 20:03
find a dog trainer and learn how to teach your dog to walk on a loose leash.
all collars can be harmful if not used properly.
all collars can be harmful if not used properly.
by dragonfry on 21 March 2014 - 01:03
Because you chose the quick release i advise you never have him outside without a back up choke chain on along with the pinch. Those quick release collars often fail. They are not to be trusted because they often do "Quick Release" when your not excpecting it.
http://leerburg.com/fit-prong.htm
Here is a very helpful site about sizing ands using a pinch collar.
Be safe and best wishes.
Fry
http://leerburg.com/fit-prong.htm
Here is a very helpful site about sizing ands using a pinch collar.
Be safe and best wishes.
Fry
by Jeffs on 21 March 2014 - 14:03
I use a leather flat collar as a backup to the Pinch.
by desert dog on 21 March 2014 - 15:03
If your dog is pulling on a choke collar, you should go back to basic obedience work before going on walks. A correction should be a quick snap not a pull. You can do that in a small area. A dog pulling and choking himself has never had good foundation work with any collar.
hank
hank
by HighDesertGSD on 21 March 2014 - 16:03
If you use the dead ring setup you can have a backup collar with the same leash. If you use the live ring you need two leashes. Right?
I can also put an extra large ring that opens and closes where the quick disconnect is. This should be added insurance against breakage. I have a couple of these from worn leashes.
Thanks for the caution.
There are videos on Youtude on this subject.
I can also put an extra large ring that opens and closes where the quick disconnect is. This should be added insurance against breakage. I have a couple of these from worn leashes.
Thanks for the caution.
There are videos on Youtude on this subject.
by Keith Grossman on 22 March 2014 - 00:03
"Second, prongs do work much better and offer better corrections with less force needed, but, I have seen what many of these devices can do to the relationship between dog and handler and have not used them in a long time.
Now I use the Electric collar, mostly low stim levels, it leaves me out of it, the dog thinks its behavior caused the corrections and it makes for better training."
Everyone should read this...twice.
Now I use the Electric collar, mostly low stim levels, it leaves me out of it, the dog thinks its behavior caused the corrections and it makes for better training."
Everyone should read this...twice.
by Q Man on 22 March 2014 - 02:03
"Quick Release" Collars are just trouble waiting to happen...And it will happen...and It'll happen at the wrong time...So do yourself a favor and don't use them...
~Bob~
~Bob~
by joanro on 23 March 2014 - 15:03
Just wrap the quick release mechanism with duct tape. If it has a trigger nap, wrap it with duct tape.
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