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by gsdpartisan on 06 October 2013 - 20:10
Hi Nans,
This video shows how we start a fast, reliable recall-not sure if you're competing in any sport or not, but this method works whether or not you're competing. The first steps are all motivational where the dog isn't required to do anything but come fast--it's all fun & the dogs love it.
You need 2 people--one holds the dog back while the other runs away calling the dog's name & encouraging the dog to come. Of course, the dog is going to want to run with you. Holding the dog back while the person runs away makes the dog want to follow even more. The dog will usually pull & jump & bark to follow you especially since he knows he'll get a treat, or ball or tug when he reaches you. The person running can also turn around & clap his hands & look at the dog while backing up--even after the dog is released.
The person holding the leash releases the dog when he gets the signal from the person calling the dog (the signal is a raised arm or something).
We have big dogs so in order to keep the dog from having to slow up when he reach so he doesn't knock you down or re-hinge your knees, we teach a command where the dog comes in sideways (see video)-& is petted or receives a treat or a tug. The dog can stand up & move while in this position. Eliminating the finish or the heel command at the end of the recall also always makes the recall fun for the dog & doesn't compromise other command if you're competing.
The correct front finish is started close & away from the long recall. When we start integrating the two, we'll start the recall as in the video & when the dog is close use the front finish command (hier).
Later, the recall is enforced with an e-collar using negative reinforcement (low-level continuous stim). Chuck is just starting his e-collar training. No e-collars were used in this video.
This video shows how we start a fast, reliable recall-not sure if you're competing in any sport or not, but this method works whether or not you're competing. The first steps are all motivational where the dog isn't required to do anything but come fast--it's all fun & the dogs love it.
You need 2 people--one holds the dog back while the other runs away calling the dog's name & encouraging the dog to come. Of course, the dog is going to want to run with you. Holding the dog back while the person runs away makes the dog want to follow even more. The dog will usually pull & jump & bark to follow you especially since he knows he'll get a treat, or ball or tug when he reaches you. The person running can also turn around & clap his hands & look at the dog while backing up--even after the dog is released.
The person holding the leash releases the dog when he gets the signal from the person calling the dog (the signal is a raised arm or something).
We have big dogs so in order to keep the dog from having to slow up when he reach so he doesn't knock you down or re-hinge your knees, we teach a command where the dog comes in sideways (see video)-& is petted or receives a treat or a tug. The dog can stand up & move while in this position. Eliminating the finish or the heel command at the end of the recall also always makes the recall fun for the dog & doesn't compromise other command if you're competing.
The correct front finish is started close & away from the long recall. When we start integrating the two, we'll start the recall as in the video & when the dog is close use the front finish command (hier).
Later, the recall is enforced with an e-collar using negative reinforcement (low-level continuous stim). Chuck is just starting his e-collar training. No e-collars were used in this video.
by vomeisenhaus on 06 October 2013 - 21:10
Hundmutter..... The line is not being used as a BRAKE so much as it is for a TUG on the line immediately after pick up to enforce a quick/prompt return IMMEDIATELY upon pick up of dumbell The video I posted is most relevent to your post saying the longline is only used as a brake and to reel yourself into the dog which is clearly not the case as can be seen in Ivans video.
by Hundmutter on 07 October 2013 - 03:10
Kurt - you are missing the point; the Ivan vid is all about the
Retrieve, and a longish leash is in use. The conversation
STARTED over 'long line' technique, and 'pulling the dog in'.
Whether we call it a BRAKE or a TUG is down to individual
habit & preference, even semantics. Ivan is not pulling the
dog into him, he tugs and RELEASES. To 'remind' the dog.
Yes it is still attached to the leash, but he isn't far enough
away from it to do what Nan & I were discussing, even if he
wanted to.
It was you who raised the question of Retrieve training; my
response was that yes, I do sometimes use a long line (usually
more than just an 8-foot leash) for that - but I find it difficult where
someone else has already taught the dog it is going to be dragged
in, whether it likes it or not.
Retrieve, and a longish leash is in use. The conversation
STARTED over 'long line' technique, and 'pulling the dog in'.
Whether we call it a BRAKE or a TUG is down to individual
habit & preference, even semantics. Ivan is not pulling the
dog into him, he tugs and RELEASES. To 'remind' the dog.
Yes it is still attached to the leash, but he isn't far enough
away from it to do what Nan & I were discussing, even if he
wanted to.
It was you who raised the question of Retrieve training; my
response was that yes, I do sometimes use a long line (usually
more than just an 8-foot leash) for that - but I find it difficult where
someone else has already taught the dog it is going to be dragged
in, whether it likes it or not.
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