by BlackMalinois on 11 August 2020 - 03:08
First hand handler review by owner Rob Seegers
One of the noturious pitbull.malinois mix and maybe one of most influence breeding
stud in KNPV
In answer to everyone’s questions, I’ve written this text about him:
Duco wasn’t a “wonderdog”, he was just a crossbred Belgian Malinois without an official pedigree, not even DNA tested. The people who had him as a puppy would be pleased to know how famous he has become and that his genes are still to find in many policedogs.
Thirty years ago the internetsite www.bloedlijnen.nl didn’t exist, a dog just needed to be KNPV and more important, practically qualified for the real job required. Some people were interested in, connection to breeding and lineage/bloodline of the Belgian Malinois.
When Duco more frequently was used to fertilize female dogs I tried to find out more on his background, but it didn’t result in a 100 % certainty. This can only be done by DNA tested dogs. The lineage of the female dogs he fertilized wasn’t certain as well. To breed dogs, it is important to know the lineage, this gives implications on heredity in order to prevent in-breeding. Mainly the cause of disability or diseases.
By using the site www.bloedlijnen.nl the registration of our crossbred dogs and their lineage has improved tremendously.
Everybody has his own opinion: we all have different views on beauty and favourite characteristics of a dog. The same with Duco, he was tested on hips, ellbows and back, all of them were very good. But his photo’s weren’t examinated by The Hirschveld Stichting, nowadays normally done.
If the female dogs he fertilized were X-rayd? I am not sure, but when people made an appointment the female dogs were always ‘super’. As owner of the male breeding dog you’re depending on the given quality and lineage of the female dogs.
In the KNVP programme I have seen dogs more beautiful and better performing dogs than Duco. In exercises testing for will, tenacity, scent ans courage was he a great performer, but he lacked in obedience and repetion. Of course he got his ph1. But the owners of female dogs kept coming for his offspring, even at old age. His pups were his best advertisement! Despite the numerous better looking, prize winning competition he never got out of business. He must have had his qualities there! His appearance on photo’s still charms people, but there are also people who have an other opinion.
In short: he was a lovely, very healthy dog with a lot of spirit and character. But to breed healthy, good pups, you need a healthy good partner as well.
Breeders need knowledge on character and behaviour in daily life settings. They need to make analysis on weekness and strenght aspects of their female dogs. The result of that should decide which male dog is suited for the job. Don’t choose the owner, but the quality of the male dog. A bit of luck is always needed, but knowledge of genetics, feeding and caring is unmissable to breed better pups. Prevent in-breeding, it only leeds to misery.
Years ago when I started training dogs we used dogs with a lot of natural talent en stamina. Instead of training them by stimulating good behaviour, as nowadays is done by rewarding them with strokes and balls, we used canes. Different times then. The sport has evolved for the better in a different type of dog.
by apple on 11 August 2020 - 06:08
by Hired Dog on 11 August 2020 - 06:08
by apple on 11 August 2020 - 07:08
by ThatWasClose on 11 August 2020 - 16:08
Upon first glance at the dog pictured, I excitedly thought to myself, "Oh! That must be one of Mal/Pit crosses I have been told about. Low & behold the article informed me it was.
Recall folks, most of us reading here are not as "educated" as some of you. It is good for us all to learn.
by apple on 11 August 2020 - 17:08
by ThatWasClose on 11 August 2020 - 21:08
The horse world has a lot of secrets. Illegal use of drugs. Cosmetic surgery. Abusive training practices.
When I was in the 6th grade, back during the prehistoric era, I wanted a long haired guinea pig. I thought it was neat how wavy their hair was. What a shock to learn they left them in Barbie doll curlers, & hair sprayed the heck out of the animals before it went on to the judges table. Needless to say my parents did not buy me one.
@Apple, your second response was far more educational to the general reading audience here. Not everyone has your level of knowledge. It is good when we can learn from those far more experienced.
by Hired Dog on 12 August 2020 - 06:08
I am sure there are still people doing things that could be called cruel, but, I promise you, that is not how the vast majority of them train, you would see it in the dogs they produce.
Its not the KNPV, its mostly the PC crowds of today that have a problem with most training methods and making a dog comply.
They have been trying to ban the NVBK since I was a child, for the same reasons and you can see the dogs competing in it today look nothing like the dogs of 20 years a go.
Nope, I do not agree that the majority of trainers use canes or the methods and equipment they used 2 decades a go and the dogs reflect that.
Look at dogs like Bart's Zodt and Joao Lopes's A'Tim from yesteryear, very serious dogs with more social aggression and hardness, more dominance then any dog today. Hell, look at Egbert, another one of Bart's dogs from 10 years a go, gone for ever, never to be found again...these dogs were the product of the training methods of their time and they could handle it, can you say the same thing about the current dogs you see today, locked in prey?
by apple on 12 August 2020 - 07:08
by Hired Dog on 12 August 2020 - 13:08
I have no idea what percentage of trainers use that severe compulsion either, but, it stands to reason that if most of the dogs being titled today are the type you described, they could not deal with that type of abuse and like I alluded to earlier, I dont believe that there are many left who abuse dogs anymore.
I guess part of me wants that abuse to stop, yet, I am aware that the same abuse caused some really tough dogs to be titled and worked, but, at what moral cost?