How and when do YOU introduce obedience into protection? - Page 1

This has been a topic that I’ve spoken to numerous trainers about, and have always gotten a different answer. With that said, I’m curious how and when everyone introduces obedience and control to bitework. I have a year and a half old Shepherd that I have not done any obedience with in protection – until last night. I’ve been trying to get him to hit a bit harder on his entries, and was afraid that any obedience or control work would bring his drive down. Last night, however, I decided to make him heel for each bite and the pent up frustration and drive really helped his entries. The exact opposite of what I had expected.
This was after a few weeks of long line and drag-up work, which I’m sure helped as well.
 
In any event, how and when do you introduce obedience and control into protection when a dog has entry or drive issues? Does it depend on the dog? Any input would be great!

Edit: Should mention we don't do Sch, just PSA. Obedience is emphasized a lot less.

More like when do you introduce protection into obedience.  Obedience is 90% of a schutzhund routine .. even tracking in schutzhund/IPO is really obedience since functional tracking does not require the forced tracking style used in IPO tracking.  IPO tracking is 90% obedience, IPO Obedience is 100% obedience, and IPO protection is 80% obedience. A dog with solid obedience and an abundance of prey drive can easily pass an IPO III test. 

Should have mentioned we train for PSA, not Schutzhund.

Ich start with the most things directly.

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What do you call "control" and what do you call "obedience" ?
You should be able to "control" your dog during the whole session...
Obedience starts early - bark - bark and hold - sit, bark, and hold - and so on - sometimes training looks like a game, but it´s positive training = obedience.
The key is to keep the dog motivated during the protection lessons while improving the ( already learned !!! ) obedience like heeling.
Every dog is different in temperament , drive, hardness.
Some dogs don´t mind some pressure, some would fall apart ( no fun for me, mostly not worth the training ).
You need to find the right way for every single dog.

Depends on a dog, some need to be introduce to control work leading to obedience earlier than others. Some dogs have to first gain load of confidence or they will not work without their handlers supporting them. I have seen people ruin dogs with too much obedience too early.

I introduce it when the dog flips me the bird, tries to make his/her own decisions without my consent!.. time to get some control in and introduce obedience.