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by reedman222 on 10 February 2010 - 17:02
If you want the best, you must go to the best!
Look at the ot-vitosha web site. Ivan is known around the
world as one of the best breeders by far. A little expensive
but as they say "good things are seldom cheap and cheap
things are seldom good".
by Jon luc on 10 February 2010 - 18:02
No arguement that Ivan has good dogs,he has learned well what it takes.
But even with the best layed plans, genetics seem to have a mind of their own.
What you get for your money when you deal with Ivan, is his Knowledge and that
plus help with a bloodline he knows very well, would be worth the price he ask.
Say you buy an Ot Vitosha puppy and 6 months down the road you don't understand
some behavior, a breeder, if he knows his bloodline can be the best friend you have.
Ivan has a good variety of dogs to choose from.
If you are a person that has had time in this breed, you probably will go to the kennel
you normally deal with. Say you know the kennel owner 10 years, he will call you, and
say I know a dog that you would like. So in the beginnig start with Ivan, but later don't
be afraid to seek out other kennels. You will get more bang for your buck if you know
all the good kennels as Ivan does. JLP
But even with the best layed plans, genetics seem to have a mind of their own.
What you get for your money when you deal with Ivan, is his Knowledge and that
plus help with a bloodline he knows very well, would be worth the price he ask.
Say you buy an Ot Vitosha puppy and 6 months down the road you don't understand
some behavior, a breeder, if he knows his bloodline can be the best friend you have.
Ivan has a good variety of dogs to choose from.
If you are a person that has had time in this breed, you probably will go to the kennel
you normally deal with. Say you know the kennel owner 10 years, he will call you, and
say I know a dog that you would like. So in the beginnig start with Ivan, but later don't
be afraid to seek out other kennels. You will get more bang for your buck if you know
all the good kennels as Ivan does. JLP
by Top Gun k9 on 12 February 2010 - 23:02
It really depends on your criteria for who is best when you say " If you want the best you must go to the best". In my opinion you search out the bloodlines you are interested in and go from there. You need to see what characteristics in the bloodlines fit your need specifically.
Ivan has a super name as a trainer but his lines and their drives may not be what you need. JoeFarm lines produced the United States Police K9 Assoc. National Champion Dog, Tazer. Tazer won 5 consecutive National Championships. You probably never heard of the trainer unless you work police dogs, but maybe he is the best and you should buy from him. Once again, it depends on who you ask.
I guess I am just telling you that price is not always a good barometer of success. Talk to different breeders and see what they have to offer. Be selective and make them tell you the good and bad about what their lines produce. Look at pictures of dogs from their bloodlines. If all of them are 50 lbs and you want more substance look elsewhere. If they all have extremely large ears and that bothers you look elsewhere. If you don't want a 90 lb Malinois look elsewhere.
Be choosy, identify your needs and go from their.
Ivan has a super name as a trainer but his lines and their drives may not be what you need. JoeFarm lines produced the United States Police K9 Assoc. National Champion Dog, Tazer. Tazer won 5 consecutive National Championships. You probably never heard of the trainer unless you work police dogs, but maybe he is the best and you should buy from him. Once again, it depends on who you ask.
I guess I am just telling you that price is not always a good barometer of success. Talk to different breeders and see what they have to offer. Be selective and make them tell you the good and bad about what their lines produce. Look at pictures of dogs from their bloodlines. If all of them are 50 lbs and you want more substance look elsewhere. If they all have extremely large ears and that bothers you look elsewhere. If you don't want a 90 lb Malinois look elsewhere.
Be choosy, identify your needs and go from their.
by MohawkJohn on 13 February 2010 - 06:02
Hey, I have an awesome malinois...his sire is Doc ot Vitosha and his dame is Zefa Van Joe Farm. I breed him
once so far an awesome breeding ...check us out...also our other litters...http://www.mohawksmalinois.com/
also our youtube page http://www.youtube.com/user/mohawkjohn19
facebook page http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Bowling-Green-KY/Mohawks-Malinois/264409299844?ref=ts
or call mohawkjohn (248)425-2515
once so far an awesome breeding ...check us out...also our other litters...http://www.mohawksmalinois.com/
also our youtube page http://www.youtube.com/user/mohawkjohn19
facebook page http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Bowling-Green-KY/Mohawks-Malinois/264409299844?ref=ts
or call mohawkjohn (248)425-2515
by Jon luc on 13 February 2010 - 15:02
I am seeing some wonderful dogs out there. It used to be that dogs who scored 290
in SchH, were very rare. Now days the dogs are better bred and trained. Breeders are
much more knowledgable. But it will always come down to what makes you happy.
We are starting to see some of the larger Mals take First place in ringsport now. This is
very exciting because for years ringsport dogs had to really reduce their weight
to be competitive. My old rotts from the 70's come from border patrol lines that
were bred off the dogs back in the 40's . They could do ringsport. But there conformation
body wise, was like that of a Malinois. I personally like all weights, the light weight,
the middle weight and the heavy weight. I have had the other breeds and I love the
the Malinois the most. My favorite dog sport is Belgium Ringsport, but I again like
them all KNVP, NVBK , FR Ring, and IPO. Even dock diving , frizbee championships.
JLP
in SchH, were very rare. Now days the dogs are better bred and trained. Breeders are
much more knowledgable. But it will always come down to what makes you happy.
We are starting to see some of the larger Mals take First place in ringsport now. This is
very exciting because for years ringsport dogs had to really reduce their weight
to be competitive. My old rotts from the 70's come from border patrol lines that
were bred off the dogs back in the 40's . They could do ringsport. But there conformation
body wise, was like that of a Malinois. I personally like all weights, the light weight,
the middle weight and the heavy weight. I have had the other breeds and I love the
the Malinois the most. My favorite dog sport is Belgium Ringsport, but I again like
them all KNVP, NVBK , FR Ring, and IPO. Even dock diving , frizbee championships.
JLP
by reedman222 on 17 February 2010 - 16:02
Yes Mohawk,
You have some very nice dogs too!!!!!!!!!
You have some very nice dogs too!!!!!!!!!
by lonestarelitek9 on 22 October 2010 - 21:10
we have a litter of mals 8 weeks old akc if ur ever interested plz let us know where located in texas 225-223-2370 maegan $400
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