Belgian malinois and Doberman Pinscher - Page 2

Just like the dodo bird, real Dobermanns are no more. Sport dogs, sure, real aggression the breed was known for 30 years a go, gone for ever!

He picked up on advanced obedience in just the short time I had him before his spinal problems started to progress. 

I love the breed. Completely and utterly. But I am not sure if they have the same drive as a mal and I really want to train a high drive dog with toys as motivation instead of treats (I am thinking about dog training as a career and need to learn everything and be as well versed in all forms and styles of training possible) my German I have now Rylie is 7 months and working on getting a title in rally as soon as I get her fixed. (Don't need pregnancy or cycles getting in the way of her training or shows) 

she isnt a conformation dog because she has a "Working shepherd" build as I'd like to call it. 

She isn't sloping in the back. Which I PERSONALLY don't prefer and because of that I will never breed her because she isn't to Breed standard

And you dinglehopper they weren't bred for AGGRESSION. They were bred for Personal protection. You can't have a personal protection dog that'll bite off the hand of every tom and Jane that walks by. That's not how it works

Go back and study the breed, find out what they were like 60 years a go, see why they made a name as devil dogs durung the war, then grow up, forget the name calling like some immature child and realize that you have no idea what you are talking about. Lastly, hope and prey that someone will be willing to teach you properly how to understand and train dogs.

This is totally different breeds,group's,assignment,just incomparable.
Everything depend from your needs,preference,opportunity.

When I say they aren't aggressive I need to qualify that. Extremely territorial, fiercely loyal and protective even with out training.  But when walking on leash won't try to bite everyone who walks by and will even let people pet them.  Which is one of the things that shock people because they seem to think that once they pet them they are friends forever.  Show up at your house and now the dog is giving a warning growl.  The thing with Dobermans is that they are very intelligent and know when and when not to.  Some have thought their Doberman showed no protection instinct but when needed all of a sudden this "Devil Dog" comes out of them.  

Dobermans are also one of the best trackers,  They enjoy their work. I sent one to be a police dog in Kalkaska county Michigan.  That dog was a tracking machine.

Udo i want a high drive. High intensity. Dog that I could possibly do bite work with. Quick to learn with little to no common health issues. I lost my dobe to wobblers. And now health problems are a big issue for me. 

 

Health agree,but again,you can minimize your risk with bloodlines only,no guarantee..

Today dobermann breeding(I talk about europe)is more COW-dogs,then real dobie,it's a question of selection,bigest part of owners live in big cities,that's just don't gave them possibility to have a "drive"dogs,they prefer show"quality".

I had few examples,tragic.Couple owners of  young females,from my male,put them down,not because they agressive,because they had TOO MUCH HIGH TEMPERAMENT....

One of my daughter's  10 month's old,training

 

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