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Yes.
It is sad. Very.

It's also sad these events keep happening in a country where the legislature
believes they don't need better gun ownership controls; and that the answer
to international problems is to bomb and shoot the f**k out of people.

And what has England's role in the international problem in the Mideast been? If it wasn't for bombing and shooting during the 'international problem' in the 40s, you'd be speaking a different language.

All the homeland security and new laws and still this happens. 

A device which detects guns and bombs at every doorway of every public building would prevent this. Instead of spending billions a week on useless wars, that money could fund a device which would slam shut when guns are detected and then the police can take them away....before the killing can happen. It can be done!

My heart goes out to all the victims and families.

 

More guns = more deaths just like more crack = more people high and hooked on crack.

One a day America, one a day, just like those vitamins. How many have to die before we take action? Funny how a person can be put on the do not fly list but they can go buy as many guns as they want. Funny we have no universal background checks. Not so funny so many are dying. It will get worse. This will continue until we stop it.

Joan, you don't need to tell me the UK too has an unenviable record
on military measures. I wasn't around for the World Wars so I cannot
really comment on policy issues then. I do think we are about to make
a big mistake in going all gung-ho to bomb Syrians.

None of that means I can not or may not point out the pattern in
American thinking on these issues.

You are possibly right about the automatic protection doorway idea -
but any sensible measures like that cost too much, don't they ?

Good lord people pull up your panties, put a critical thought hat on.

A: You cant stop terrorism by taking away guns from non terrorists.

B: Crime and gun violence has acutally dropped dramaticaly since the 90's despite record sales and purchases of guns and ammo every year by your friends families co workers grandma grandpa sons daughters and all of us ilke. That is fact.

It was not by accident that television has something called programming. Unplug it.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/10/21/gun-homicides-steady-after-decline-in-90s-suicide-rate-edges-up/

 

Your probability of dying from a gunshot wound (any cause) in the USA was 10.64 per 100,000 population in the year 2013 (US Census Bureau). That's almost exactly 1 in every 10,000, or 0.01% likelihood. 

100k plus will die from the donut this year. 273ish today. Obesity and the donut many just ate are more likly to kill them then a legally owned firearm. A bit of perspective.

 

 

 

Tell that to the many victims of gun violence. Who's next your son, daughter, grand children and on and on.

I think your numbers are a little off. 500,000 violent gun deaths in the last 10 years. Half a million people gone at our own hands. So, the grip is on YOU to stop it. Why? Because you are a gun owner/advocate. It isn't on us to fix it. So, go ahead get a grip on that gun, get some gull and fix it before more innocents die.

"You can't stop terrorism by taking guns away from non-terrorists"...

No, Gigante, you can't. But if somebody buys a gun and hasn't been a
terrorist YET, and there's little control, what's to stop them becoming a
'terrorist' once they have the gun (s) ?

Of course it isn't the whole answer; but if you make it more difficult to
get guns, especially for people who might have a slightly suspicious
record already, stands to reason it becomes at least a bit more difficult
for those individuals to start going crazy with a gun. No - it does not stop
it entirely, does not stop them from obtaining illegal weapons, etc - but
if the attitude changes from one of "This society was built on the gun;
no-one's gonna tell me I can't carry one; I always need / its a human Right
to be armed" to one of accepting that ordinary members of the public
SHOULDN'T be carrying weapons, leave that to the law enforcement & military,
get permits for shooting clubs and hunting uses (and have to pass scrutiny to get
those), then the atmosphere changes and chances to hurt & kill others decrease.

Why dont you have a concern for the victims of the donut? They have family as well.

The numbers are the numbers once you detach from emotion and programming its not what you are being fed.

But if you feel your numbers are more accurate then pewresearch or the US Census Bureau then...

the donut is still the undisputed champion of deaths at 99,645 per year or 50% more death by donut then the made up numbers you posted.

Pledge with me now to stop this insanity, join me in the fight to stop the powdered, the eclair, the fake chocolate covered thingy and the buttermilk from doing 50% more damage to our families then the made up numbers posted above.

lol, the donuts, the donuts I decide to eat. The donuts I know are not good for me but that I decide to eat. I don't decide it is time to get shot. You are comparing apples and oranges with false logic but keep at it while more people lose their life and those who survive are tormented for life. Go ahead as we speak another mass shooting is taking place.