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by Konotashi on 06 September 2013 - 00:09
Went to Vegas this weekend for a flyball tournament. (Didn't get any video of my guy, unfortunately).
I apologize in advance for the crummy quality. My camera murders quality when shooting in slow motion, but it's still neat to watch. I plan on shooting some slow-mo video of the French Ring dogs when I go watch the championship that's coming up.
When seeing dogs going full speed, you can tell they all (obviously) don't run/jump/hit the box the same, but it's cool to be able to see all of the details in slow motion.
And there's a GSD in it, to boot.
First dog is Ledge from Rocket Dog Racers, and the two dogs shown passing in the last clip are Whiskey and Savage from GOTU. The rest of the dogs are from my team (Arizona Superchaged) - Boris (GSD), Bella (BC mix), Rumor (BC) and Montage (BC/mal/whippet/border terrier/JRT). I thought it was funny how Montage looked like a frog when he's going back. LOL
Enjoy.
I apologize in advance for the crummy quality. My camera murders quality when shooting in slow motion, but it's still neat to watch. I plan on shooting some slow-mo video of the French Ring dogs when I go watch the championship that's coming up.
When seeing dogs going full speed, you can tell they all (obviously) don't run/jump/hit the box the same, but it's cool to be able to see all of the details in slow motion.
And there's a GSD in it, to boot.
First dog is Ledge from Rocket Dog Racers, and the two dogs shown passing in the last clip are Whiskey and Savage from GOTU. The rest of the dogs are from my team (Arizona Superchaged) - Boris (GSD), Bella (BC mix), Rumor (BC) and Montage (BC/mal/whippet/border terrier/JRT). I thought it was funny how Montage looked like a frog when he's going back. LOL
Enjoy.

by fawndallas on 06 September 2013 - 11:09
That is so cool. I have never seen Flyball. It is interesting how the dogs just leap from one jump to the next. Are the jumps purposely placed so that the dogs just jump from one to the next with no running between?

by Kaffirdog on 06 September 2013 - 11:09
Fascinating. Boris looks enormous!
Margaret N-J
Margaret N-J

by GSDNewbie on 06 September 2013 - 13:09
jump height is determined by the smallest dog on each team so I am surprised they really did not have a small dog lol I wish I had the time for Ulf to do this since we have a club right here but until we are done with schutzhund it cant be done as they practice same day.

by Blaineric on 06 September 2013 - 13:09
Really neat, thanks for posting. I've only seen a couple flyball tournaments in person before so slow-mo is definitely cool to watch.

by VKGSDs on 06 September 2013 - 14:09
GSDNewbie, U-FLI does not measure to the wither, just the length to the elbow I believe. I have a 27lb dog about 18" tall (she's leggy) and she is officially 10" for U-FLI. NAFA jump heights are higher. Our national team jumped 8" at U-FLI Nationals but we jump 11" in NAFA tournaments.
Fawn, the jumps are 10' apart and that is fixed. Most dogs single stride, even the smaller dogs. Very little dogs or smaller dogs that are slower will double stride between jumps.
The quality is not that bad, you can see what's going on! I like the BC toward the end, definitely the best turn. I'm a stickler for proper turns, they MUST have all four on the box.
Fawn, the jumps are 10' apart and that is fixed. Most dogs single stride, even the smaller dogs. Very little dogs or smaller dogs that are slower will double stride between jumps.
The quality is not that bad, you can see what's going on! I like the BC toward the end, definitely the best turn. I'm a stickler for proper turns, they MUST have all four on the box.

by fawndallas on 06 September 2013 - 16:09
Thanks. That does look like fun.

by VKGSDs on 06 September 2013 - 16:09
It's addicting. I thought it was so lame and now I've basically quit Schutzhund in favor of flyball (well, SchH is a 2.5 hour drive, flyball is 10 minutes, and flyball only costs me $5 to run as many dogs as I have and they let me bring my foster dogs for socialization).

by Konotashi on 06 September 2013 - 23:09
Flyball is so much fun! And yes, it is VERY addicting!
The only thing altered, as was said before, are the jump heights which is based upon the smallest dog on the team. U-FLI measures the forearm and NAFA measures dogs at the withers. Montage (the mix) and Rumor (the BC) are both height dogs in U-FLI, but Rumor isn't a height dog in NAFA. I like the forearm measurement method. I've had Ozzy measured three times for NAFA - the first time, he measured for 8' jumps, second time he measured for 7' jumps, and the third (and last time) he measured for 6' jumps, which is the minimum jump height. Measuring is done at the tournament before racing starts, so if the dog is really excited and still full of energy, they tend to stand higher on their toes and they'll measure for higher jumps. For Ozzy to measure 6', I had to take him and run him around a bit for him to calm down so he wasn't standing so 'perky.' Haha.
It's on a 51 ft course. There's 6 feet between the start line and the first jump, 10 feet between each jump, and 15 feet from the last jump to the box. Ideally, a dog should single-stride between the jumps, but for some dogs, that isn't possible. For others, you can train them to have a single stride by using what we call stride boards. Most people want to see the dog's feet hit the ground almost directly in the middle of each jump, and by changing where the dog launches itself for the first jump, you can make a dog run a heat more efficiently. Rumor is a perfect example of that, as she was almost directly in the center of each jump as she was going.
Ozzy usually single strides between two, and double steps between the other two. I want to take some video at our next practice to see where/why he's single striding vs. double stepping. If it's due to where he's jumping from for the first jump, then we'll start implementing stride boards for him. If it's just because he's small... well then I guess I can live with double steps. Haha.
A swimmer's turn (all four feet on the box - again, Rumor is a good example) is important for speed and MORE importantly, safety. If a dog puts all four feet on the box, they lessen the impact on their front feet tremendously, and they can launch themselves off and gain speed much faster with their back legs on the box. It's not unheard of for some dogs (whippets, especially) to seriously injure themselves if they hit the box with just their front feet going full speed.
The only thing altered, as was said before, are the jump heights which is based upon the smallest dog on the team. U-FLI measures the forearm and NAFA measures dogs at the withers. Montage (the mix) and Rumor (the BC) are both height dogs in U-FLI, but Rumor isn't a height dog in NAFA. I like the forearm measurement method. I've had Ozzy measured three times for NAFA - the first time, he measured for 8' jumps, second time he measured for 7' jumps, and the third (and last time) he measured for 6' jumps, which is the minimum jump height. Measuring is done at the tournament before racing starts, so if the dog is really excited and still full of energy, they tend to stand higher on their toes and they'll measure for higher jumps. For Ozzy to measure 6', I had to take him and run him around a bit for him to calm down so he wasn't standing so 'perky.' Haha.
It's on a 51 ft course. There's 6 feet between the start line and the first jump, 10 feet between each jump, and 15 feet from the last jump to the box. Ideally, a dog should single-stride between the jumps, but for some dogs, that isn't possible. For others, you can train them to have a single stride by using what we call stride boards. Most people want to see the dog's feet hit the ground almost directly in the middle of each jump, and by changing where the dog launches itself for the first jump, you can make a dog run a heat more efficiently. Rumor is a perfect example of that, as she was almost directly in the center of each jump as she was going.
Ozzy usually single strides between two, and double steps between the other two. I want to take some video at our next practice to see where/why he's single striding vs. double stepping. If it's due to where he's jumping from for the first jump, then we'll start implementing stride boards for him. If it's just because he's small... well then I guess I can live with double steps. Haha.
A swimmer's turn (all four feet on the box - again, Rumor is a good example) is important for speed and MORE importantly, safety. If a dog puts all four feet on the box, they lessen the impact on their front feet tremendously, and they can launch themselves off and gain speed much faster with their back legs on the box. It's not unheard of for some dogs (whippets, especially) to seriously injure themselves if they hit the box with just their front feet going full speed.
by dravensgl on 15 September 2013 - 10:09
I have one of my american bulldogs in training for this right now. He just loves it.
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