Bite box training - Page 5

vk4gsd..
my hearing is fine, you demonstrated very poor comparison.
Reminds me:
My nephew once stated that cherries were salty... that is dumb shit, he simply made it up because he was too afraid to try something new... now he eats the crap out of them! However he was 10 at the time, so that is OK..he has learned since that talking his opinions about things he has no clue about, is not wise.

Don;t know guys if I will be able to go to WUSV. I need to figure out my rotations and I still need to take full load of classes. More I do, less I know.

vk4gsd,
GSDpack knows more about training, working and breeding excellent GSD's then you will ever know.  Martina is a very knowledgeable lady with some excellent dogs, I'd recommend her highly for a czech GSD and I don't recommend dog people easily.   It seems that you have pissed off a lot of people on this forum by your obnoxious posts.  GSDpack is a person that has a lot to offer and pretty much tells it like it is.  Your leprosy analogy was really poor and one of the dumbest comparisons that I have also heard in a long time.  You could benefit from this forum and probably learn a few things, that is evident by the videos of your protection work.

doing the best this hick can, so i fall short on the diplomacy,

Thanks to Keith , for posting this subject and Gustav and SLAM and BoB helping it out. So MANY  need to read this and learn....THE RIGHT WAY AND THE RIGHT INFO
So many owners of gsd get involved with trainers with BIG HEADS and no knowledge to ruin good dogs with bite work gimmics USING tables and bite boxes.

I , thank goodness for Larry Filo and a questionable mind, always ask him first as to who I listen to .

when you start bite work or even long before.
Dogz said it clearly    using for Correction of difficult problems but you must have an experienced trainer who knows what is a problem and not a fault..
Deep subject so just keep posting and Keith opened the door so hope you can post some new videos of your little TOUGH dog....so others can see what you have accomplished and why  The why of this kind of training is very important to get over to those not knowledgeable or wanting to know how and why.

and OUCH to the statement of Beating a dog on a table to do (&*(&(U
I have never seen any of the three DOG  trainers , who use or used table for training for years ever BEAT any dog they were putting on tables to do anything...Some people would not know what a Hard GSD OR MAL needs to get done or what measures are taken to focus in eye level if it bit them...  just saying

My father in law said one day when I met him for the first time behind a team of MULES...and I ask him what the 2 x 4 was for ?" he meekly replied..."You have to get their Attention FIRST"

YR

 

Wow. I can see how you might take this thread in that vein, YR, if you've come late to the party. Let's just hope history doesn't get repeated. It is a mighty big HOPE, too.





 

If nothing else, at least it provides for some good laughs while sitting around after training having a beer with people who have real, verifiable experience and accomplishments with dogs.

Hope springs eternal.

May I ask why is there so much infighting and sarcasm and such on this forum? At the end of the day, does what anyone say here impact your ability to make a living or train your dog or become a better person?
Does anyone here actually take training advice and simply apply it to their dogs, without ever researching it or talking about it with a local trainer they work with and trust?
Does anyone in here believe that training advice can be specifically given to anyone for their specific dog without the person offering that advice having seen and worked the dog?
Why not just read whats posted, if you like something, consider it, maybe even try it and move on. Same if you dont like something, ignore it and move on.
 

Sure, PM me. I bet you will not. I won't take it personal, so no worries.

The biggest problem with Table or Box training is too many trainers build a table or box then claim to be masters of the universe. It,s just another tool it can be used to a benefit or just the opposite if the trainer is incompetent!. Just like any tool some dogs can be helped by it and some don,t need it. A good trainer will explain why it,s needed for the particular dog and what the end results should be. The trainer who would put every dog they work on the table should be questioned.