IPO Rules are coming..... - Page 2

 I didn't write the rules so I don't know why. You would have to ask the 7 people that wrote the rules why they did not clearify it more. You are also looking at the "english version" of the rules, the "German version" is the version that rules and I don't know what that says, but I do know what the authors said....language must stay consistant also.

makes sense I guess.  Write a rule, then say it means something they don't write in the rules.  Seems about right.

 I,m curious? I was told this would be a disqualification in the new IPO rules? This is my dog Axles hold and bark.



 Why would it be a disqualification or a point deduction?.

Bob, that's a good topic in itself. My dog doesn't do that. Wanna know why? Because I know it eats points. "They" want the dog square with the rear feet on the ground. Why do they want this? I hope it isn't for a tactical reason. If that were the case, the whole exercise would be thrown out. Police, themselves, are taught not to be in that zone. Nope, they'd be slightly off tongue side, further back with their hands on their belt, ready to get into their fighting stance. But back to the blind. What is the goal of this exercise? The dog runs into the blind, barks at the bad man, and gets called out at a trial. Dog needs to show power and control. Does Axel do that? I'm thinking yes. He is getting in his face without touching or biting. Like I said, from a tactical standpoint, it is stupid.

Bob....as long as the dog doesn't touch the helper, I can't see why points would be deducted...

But they are, Ron. Maybe not much in a club trial.

Bob


 You will NOT be DQed for jumping....there are not points deducted "just" for jumping either....usually when dogs jump the barking is sometimes not consistant and continuous or can be less powerful...so the deduction comes from the barking NOT just from Jumping.... and out in the field, the jumping can effect the helpers timing thus the dog gets less then a full grip, so point deduction would come from grip, not the jumping.....If the dog is barking consistantly, continuously with power and jumping = full pts.

  Frank

 Frank:

                I do agree that during reattacks it can be problimatic for the helper and the grip.  Thanks for the input. He does bark stong and consistlently during this phase even at 11 years old.

I thought juding on the grip was going to be more forgiving on things like the escape and that commitment and fight were going to be much more heavily judged and not a less than full grip because the presentation wasn't perfect.  That was one change in direction I actually thought was worth a shit, but maybe I'm wrong.

zdog said
"I thought juding on the grip was going to be more forgiving on things like the escape and that commitment and fight were going to be much more heavily judged and not a less than full grip because the presentation wasn't perfect.  That was one change in direction I actually thought was worth a shit, but maybe I'm wrong."


  they are....what does that statement  have to do with jumping while guarding? (what we were talking about) These are 2 seperate portion of an exercise, ie guarding vs gripping and fighting.....not sure where the confussion is...sorry....

 there are 5 "phases" of bitework

1. opening phase (striking)
2. pressure phase (dog's ability to handle pressure during drive and stick hits)
3. Transition phase (after the lockup but before the out, does the dog stay full strong and firm in the grip)
4. Release Phase (clean release of the sleeve)
5. guarding phase (strong powerful intense guarding)

 

  your statement has to do with the pressure phase and the jumping is in reguards to the guarding phase.


 hope this clears it up some


  Frank