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BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 21 August 2017 - 08:08

Some exercises last weekend in Arnhem  Holland

part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Hp3Nc5xNE&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

 

IPO dog all the exercises the same dog is also certified in KNPV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czJqD8oQ6LI&app=desktop


Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 21 August 2017 - 11:08

Are they always gripping that up high in the soft spot?

BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 21 August 2017 - 12:08


You mean the KNPV dogs?

Than leg is also possible just under the knee front or behind

This are green dogs later if they are cerified and go to police they switch to underarm
and also leg offcourse is possible


Baerenfangs Erbe

by Baerenfangs Erbe on 21 August 2017 - 13:08

I don't get the title... how are these IPO or KNPV if they are green?

Need coffee

BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 21 August 2017 - 13:08


KNPV dogs after certification don,t go direct work on the street so in that point they are green

Tea is better and healthier for you succes


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 21 August 2017 - 15:08

Black Malinois,

 

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Interesting videos, thanks for posting! :)  I like all the distractions they have for the dogs. That's something we should do here to proof our dogs.


yogidog

by yogidog on 21 August 2017 - 16:08

Very interesting video not even talking about the biting. The club as a whole looks to be a fun place to bring your dog. Distraction for the dogs are super. The man handling of each other is needed to proof the dog understands what his job is a who he suppose to protect. Enjoyed your video. And am jealous of your club

BlackMalinois

by BlackMalinois on 21 August 2017 - 16:08


by Bavarian Wagon on 21 August 2017 - 17:08

"I like all the distractions they have for the dogs. That's something we should do here to proof our dogs."

You can do whatever you want to proof your dog...grab a helper, set up whatever you want, and do it. I do this all the time with my dogs and our club dogs, I've yet to go to a single IPO club where all that happens is "trial picture" work.

by adhahn on 21 August 2017 - 20:08

Great videos. It's very interesting to have a peek inside the dog training culture elsewhere. Thanks for sharing.

 

Quote- "I've yet to go to a single IPO club where all that happens is "trial picture" work."

 

My experience is the opposite. I haven't visited dozens of clubs, but I have been to a few. There will of course be a couple handlers and dogs who try a few extra/unconventional things, but the overwhelming focus is preparing for trials. 

 

From what I've seen, a few dogs would benefit greatly from spending time on non-trial related proofing and training, HOWEVER, spending time apart from "trial picture" work would mean a huge number of dogs would never earn titles (or would take years to do so). 

 

IMO it's a combination of dogs who are not really suited for the work and people who are not seriously dedicated participants. Another factor is the climate throughout the USA. In some States training is cut short during the summer because of the heat, in other states winter training is limited by the cold. I don't know how this is dealt with in other countries but it is an issue in some parts of the US. 

 

Clubs end up by necessity using every night during 'training season' to move dog/handler teams just a little closer to being trial ready. Clubs can hold special seminars or sponsor events outside regular training nights; but reality once again dictates that most members will get a better return on their time/money when the seminar is about trial prep rather than something extra.

 

From everything I've seen and read, we simply don't have many clubs in the US that are overwhelmingly populated with strong, capable dogs and serious, dedicated handlers. I'd be shocked if half the dogs at any club I've visited could handle the activities in OP's videos. I would't be surprised if the percentage was far, far lower.      

   






 


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