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by Shtal on 02 March 2016 - 20:03
no vk4 I will make easy for you to read again.....
With an example why does God allow evil on earth?
vk4 says if there is a God how can he allow, hatred, crime and etc…??
How can God allow the trustily of war and devastation in the world today and what about the problem of evil?
And people have a little syllogism before God there was "nothing" God created everything and evil or something. So God created evil? so God must be evil? and that is faulty syllogism.
When God made the devil, Bible says God "created the devil" the devil is not self-existent as God is....ONLY God is "self-existence" which is / that is God. When God created Satan he created him in "perfection" God did NOT created evil, God created a perfect being and in Ezekiel chapter 28 God said to Satan you were perfect and beauty in the day when you were created, you were perfect, he was created, created in perfection…
God did NOT create evil, he created a perfect being and he gave that perfect being a perfect freedom and why did God gave to Angels freedom and why did God gave us freedom? Because God wants worship and God wants love.
Example: Now if God made me where I was't free or having free will, why, could not choose to do evil and correspondently I couldn’t choose to do good. If I cannot choose not to love God I can’t choose to love God, if I can’t choose to be loyal to God – I cannot choose to be disloyal, I only (be) inanimate object / robot or whatever. So God created a being, perfect in wisdom and perfect in beauty and that being chose to sin.
Now what is the highest good? The highest good, the greatest commandment is to love God, that is the greatest commandment; this is the first and great commandment, therefor that is the highest good to love God, well but in order to love God I have to have a choice and so God gave us the chose that we might obtain the highest good. And Satan had that choice and he blew it, ruined it through pride.
by vk4gsd on 02 March 2016 - 20:03
Both punish those that don't blindly worship with torture and death extended to generations.
Yaweh is an evil dipshit dictator that made the universe to worship him or die.
So glad yr bullshit has never been shown to be true.

by Shtal on 02 March 2016 - 23:03
You are sinner my dear vk4 and penalty for sin is death whether you like it or not.

by Shtal on 02 March 2016 - 23:03
Vk4, I have one of my old posts we spoke about this subject before so I will remind you what I said to you 2 year's ago?
I will give you example: If you consider yourself as being evolutionist and you are outraged at seeing a violent / murder on TV, you may say how can those be like this? That is terrible; it is wrong, if you are evolutionist why should you be angry, in your world view that is one chemical accident getting rid-off another chemical accident, what’s the problem? You wouldn’t get angry at baking soda with reacting to vinegar, that’s what chemicals do, right?
This is a behavioral inconsistency. And btw, chemicals don’t have a choice, if the people kill, just a chemical accident, it just outworking chemistry – why would you punish? You wouldn’t punish baking soda with reacting to vinegar, it just what it does…You wouldn’t throw Lion in jail for killing antelope, right? Animals killed animals what’s the big deal.
So the fact you are angry, is your behavior inconstancy. It shows in heart of hearts that you know Biblical God; you do know that murder is wrong.
Now, I don’t accept you claim that the Bible has contradictions, in my world view the Bible is the word of God, it can’t have contradictions because God does not deny himself but for the sake of argument why in your world view that be wrong?
And if you say everybody knows contradictions are wrong, well I know contradictions are wrong because they are contrary to the nature of God; but my question is? How do you know are contradictions are always wrong? Why would you have law of non-contradiction, well if you say I haven’t seeing true contradiction and I haven’t seeing total solar eclipse that doesn’t mean they are impossible, how do you know contradiction never happened? I know that because God’s knowledge is universal and the fact God does not deny himself tells me there is universal law of non-contradiction. How do you know that?
Now you are saying the Christian God is not good. He slaughters innocent children; look at the God of the Old Testament, wiping out all these society? You see you are assuming the standard of goodness, when you say good and innocent and you are borrowing an Christian world view arguing against it and my response to you is, first of all God is good and is the standard of goodness, in the Christian world view it doesn’t even make sense to say God isn’t good, God is good as he can be – because he is fully God, God defines what good is but for the sake of argument, apart from God how can you determine what is “good” and who is “innocent”?
by vk4gsd on 03 March 2016 - 00:03
Simple;
genocide is evil
God commits genocide
God is evil
From which it follows;
Those that worship an evil god are also evil...therefore shtal is evil.
Its called logic dipshit, next question.

by Shtal on 03 March 2016 - 00:03
@Vk4
ROFL
Correct me if I'm wrong but you must be talking about God of evolution, how Adolf Hitler practice survival of the fittest.
The problem I see you cannot understand what is fundamental understanding the meaning of God; the thing is you put God of the universe subject to your standard or morality, and that is why you can't comprehend how to define God.
I am going to ask you my very old question, If evolution is true based on chemical reaction in your brain how do you tell right from wrong? Before you start a discussion on moral issues you first have to decide how you decide; do you decide right from wrong based upon majority opinion? Tell me how does chemical works in your brain as I mentioned in my other post?

by GSDtravels on 03 March 2016 - 03:03
And I see you're trotting out your strawman version of survival of the fittest and then slaying it in epic fashion! That's NOT what "evolution says" about survival of the fittest, get a fucking clue! You really make an ass of yourself over and over and over and over. Read some actual literature on survival of the fittest Shtal, scientific literature, not respun bullshit. When you come back with a hint of understanding what it means (which you will never do) and you have at least a third grade understanding of the science behind it, then maybe you can carry on an adult conversation and actually deal with facts. Why do you keep flooding the board with this stupidity, why can't you contain it in one thread???
by vk4gsd on 03 March 2016 - 03:03
Shtal worships a genocidal maniac, shtal worships evil.
Vk does not worship Hitler or evolution moron, get an education.

by Shtal on 03 March 2016 - 16:03
ouch...that hurts lol.....did I hit the nerve my dear Gsdtravels? it's been provoking to you is it? or reaction by referring to a sensitive topic? did I?
Did Hitler did exactly that? The very heart of Darwinism is the belief that evolution proceeds by the differential survival of the fittest or superior individuals.

by GSD Admin on 03 March 2016 - 16:03
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