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by beetree on 31 March 2014 - 20:03

Of course President Obama has a cabinet, including VP Biden and Sec. of State Kerry to help him make decisions.  No, we are not out of Iraq or Afghanistan. It probably makes Putin smirk with mirth to know that he is out of those quagmires, and the USA so eagerly stepped right on in to fill his void. Isn't that part of what bankrupted communist Russia to the point of its crumbling? 

How to make the American public care enough to want to understand what they need to know for an informed opinion? The thing is, since we all have access to the web, any question can be investigated by any one so easily, so I don't think Joe Average, really has a good excuse for their ignorance. Libraries have computers free to use everywhere, too, so it can't be about only those who have money can be informed. Joe Average just is not motivated to care more, until they feel some sort of pain about something. If education for our USA public is deemed so useless by one's such as yourself Carlin, I guess that just leaves everyone with "hope". Sounds a bit pathetic, really.

I think of how it is actually time consuming too, if everyone has to exert and repeat efforts, to just attempt a proper context for an informed opinion. Since the media isn't really about reporting facts, or responsible journalism any more. Lots of political junkees count on that for their own propaganda campaigns. Just ask BE and RS! They both have been actively pushing and molding their forum conversations, it seems to me, to further their political POV's agenda.

Still, even if Joe Average never gets it, I don't see how that bonfire previously mentioned, actually solves any of this. It just shifts what we value onto something else. People won't have changed what makes them tick.

In Syria, Obama and his advisors, should have known he would unsettle the Saudi King by providing him with doubts as to our commitment for an unswerving protection for his oil fields, when we did not launch a missile attack Syria. That would make it a sneaky plan then, to seek approval from Congress, hoping air strikes against Syria was not a foregone conclusion, just so he would not be the one blamed for doing "what the people" want. And we the people, did think it was about a red line drawn by Obama, our war chief, against the scourge of chemical warfare, that was crossed. Eventually, other motives do make themselves found out.

So was Obama shrewd or weak, in his vacillation? 
 

Carlin

by Carlin on 31 March 2014 - 21:03

There are no "lines", they are only perceived, and are moved at will. This isn't the first time WMD's are used an excuse, in keeping with fear mongering. Again, the idea that we are some kind of humanitarian light in the darkness is laughable given how selective it is. Obama draw a line? The US president is currently in position to be drawing "lines" in the sand (pun intended).
 

If education for our USA public is deemed so useless by one's such as yourself Carlin


There is an education, and then there is an education.
 


I don't see how that bonfire previously mentioned, actually solves any of this.


It doesn't solve a thing, IMO. It would only serve to roll back the clock to paradigm to which we are better suited. Of course, immediately we should hear the outrage of those who believe there is so much progress to made, but the basics have actually changed very little, merely adorned quite like the pig with a gold ring in the snout. One of my favorites:
 

"...Men have been barbarians much longer than they have been civilized.  They are only precariously civilized, and within us there is the propensity, persistent as the force of gravity, to revert under stress and strain, or under temptation, to our first natures."  Walter Lippmann

It wouldn't take a much.

by beetree on 31 March 2014 - 21:03

Of course, immediately we should hear the outrage of those who believe there is so much progress to made, but the basics have actually changed very little, merely adorned quite like the pig with a gold ring in the snout

Now, I feel a groan coming on. Right, you'd be happy hunting and trapping, and cutting wood, all the live long day. Of course I'd be stuck wearing hand-me-down gingham and churning butter by hand. And then what, in between meal procurement, go out scavenging for those jumbled bits of "progess" you decry, wherever you can? Again, not too impressed with this solution. Seems pedestrian really. And it just feels false, too. Going "backwards" on purpose. There will be plenty of pigs in your paradigm. They will find the gold and use it. Of course they will. Earrings, instead maybe, but your pigs will be adorned in no time at all.

It wouldn't take a much.

That would depend, I think. I don't think it will be an immediate thing at all. Nothing so devastating or immediate as an all out nuclear war.


gouda

by gouda on 03 April 2014 - 11:04

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patrick-goodenough/egyptian-islamists-murder-young-christian-after-dragging-her-car

  I'M sorry guys,but these stories have to be told.

 

Goodmorning RedSable,Shtal,Y.R.  and the rest of the posters here. oh,oh, almost forgot Ruger1.

  John  {gouda}


gouda

by gouda on 04 April 2014 - 11:04


gouda

by gouda on 04 April 2014 - 11:04

Starter: Here is Your National Anthem!

Oh Canada our home and native land
True patriot love in all our sons command
With glowing hearts we see thee rise
The true north strong and free
From far and wide oh Canada
We stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free
Oh Canada we stand on guard for thee
Oh Canada we stand on guard for thee.

This is not sent for discussion. If you agree, forward it. If you don't, simply delete it. By me forwarding it, you know how I feel.

I'm guessing the response came as a big surprise to CBC to the question:
"Do you believe that the word 'God' should stay in the iconic National Anthem ... a part of Canadian culture?"

CBC, yesterday morning, had a poll on this question. They had the highest number of responses that they have ever had for one of their polls, and the percentage was this: 86% for the word "God" in the National Anthem, 14% against. That is a pretty 'commanding' public response. I was asked to send this on if I agreed or delete if I didn't. Now it is your turn. It is said that 86% of Canadians believe the word "God" should stay, therefore, I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a controversy about having the word "God" in the anthem!

Should the country cater to this 14%?
If you agree with the 86%, pass this on, if not, simply delete

Is it any wonder why Canada is one of the best countries to live in.
Hi Travels and vk4. put that in your pipe and smoke it.

P.S, JANET {REDSABLE} we are so fortunate to live in Canada.

John {gouda}

Red Sable

by Red Sable on 04 April 2014 - 16:04

I saw that too gouda and was encouraged, however, our political leaders   are anything but Godly.  I wish they'd keep their noses out of this business with Ukraine, or we are asking for serious trouble.


Mountain Lion

by Mountain Lion on 04 April 2014 - 22:04


by beetree on 04 April 2014 - 23:04

When Gov. Malloy asked the NRA to actually support and fund mental health issues, he found the answer was, "... that while the NRA professes to support enhanced mental-health services, it doesn't."

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Malloy-issues-health-care-challenge-to-NRA-5375187.php

 

HARTFORD -- Commemorating Connecticut's first anniversary of tougher gun laws, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy didn't mince words on Thursday, challenging the National Rifle Association to support the federal Affordable Care Act and help expand opportunities for mental-health treatment.

... 

"There are those who will say this is not a gun problem, it's a mental health problem, and today I want to challenge that," he said. "If it's a mental-health problem, NRA, why aren't you advocating for the ACA? Why aren't you criticizing governors who will not allow Medicaid to be delivered to their citizens, with its mental-health component? NRA, if you're serious about making America safer, you would join Connecticut, as we have had one of the most successful rollouts of the ACA, bringing mental-health treatment to tens of thousands of people who might not otherwise have it."

The NRA did not return a request for comment.

Regular Smile


Carlin

by Carlin on 05 April 2014 - 02:04

These are rights, not privileges. Rights are assumed, privileges are earned. The role of the NRA isn't to secure rights based upon monetary contributions to social programs, as if those rights were somehow contingent in any way. The good governor is basically asserting "if you want to have your firearms, you had better take responsibility for healthcare".  That is some significantly flawed and backward reasoning. I am not accountable for anyone's actions but my own, and my freedom and liberties are guaranteed despite the actions of another, free from obligation, or any "fee" for that matter. Malloy ought to consider himself fortunate he got the vote of support from the NRA that he did. If he expected more, it may be time to polish up on his civics, or consider finding a new buyer for his weak rhetoric if he insists on the ridiculousness. Really, where do these people come from?






 


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