Obama a christian?? - Page 6

Moons once I was blind; but now I see! once I was deaf but now I hear! Once I was decieved but now I understand! Once I was in bondage but now I am free! All those things; satanic occult influence to mind enlightening mysticism to the premier religion of secular humanism or diefying mankind! The vogue saying now is "in the beginning man created God" shiek and soothing and exactly what man wants ! all those humanistic thoughts are deception! The premier question is this ? Since every medical science has concluded that mans body is designed to live forever and it is a documented fact which no one or even you can deny! Then why do we die? What causes us to not follow that scientific rule of entropy? do you truely understand! You call me blind yet you refuse to see!  I have had the beam removed from my eye so that I may see clearly to help remove the sliver in yours . Yet those living in darkness love it because it hides thier wicked deeds . but all those things in darkness will be brought to the light and exposed in judgement! When you live in darkness you can not see the danger all around you. Ever been to sea in the night? have you ever spelunked in caves? Have you seen the darkness? I do not worry ! No man can harm me ! I fear only one!

Yeah I've been in the dark.
Thats why man has his other senses, for those dark places.
I don't really want to change your point of view, or your beliefs.
I'm just me.
You go right on being you.
The world is a very large place.

The whole struggle in this life is not one of points of view! Just as the darkness obscures all things as a moonless & starless night on the open sea;and a secret place deep in a cave where your hand is invisable before your nose! The struggle is in knowing  truth or deciet. Deception is darkness so wicked deeds do not come to light and you remain blind ! Truth is light that makes all deeds visible both good and wicked ! We choose either light or darkness! When you choose light you are able to see those deeds both good and wicked! If you choose darkness you are oblivious to the wicked deeds because you are blind! Being a secular humanist one elevates ones self above god who is light and desires to live in darkness so their wicked deeds go unseen. Do you live in darkness? So TM it is a point of whether you live in light or darkness! Not a point of view but whether you can see in the light or are blinded by the darkness!  Was B D telling the truth ? Ya gotta serve somebody!

I received this e-mail from a friend....I don't know how true it is... but it needs some investigating for sure.

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If you check Obama's last trip over seas, His wife left just after their visit to France as stated below. She has yet to accompany him to any Arab country. Think about it. This was sent to me from a very good and reliable friend. The pieces of the puzzle just keep on coming together!

Interesting...

I did not write this...someone forwarded it to me...but my wife lived in Saudi Arabia for two years, and from what she tells me, it makes sense!




Subject: Travel for Obama



I was at a Blockbusters on Saturday renting videos, and as I was going along the wall, there was a video called "Obama". I told the two men next to me that I wouldn't waste my time. We talked about Obama. These guys were Arabs and I asked them why they thought Michele Obama headed home following her visit in France instead of traveling on to Saudi Arabia and Turkey with her husband. They told me she couldn't go to Saudi Arabia , Turkey or Iraq . I said "Laura Bush went to Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Dubai .."



They said that Obama is a Muslim, and by Muslim law he would not be allowed to bring his wife into countries that accept Sharia Law. Just thought it was interesting that two Arabs at Blockbusters accept the idea that we're being led by a Muslim who follows the Islamic creed.



They also said that's the reason he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia .. It was a signal to the Muslim world . Just thought you would like to know

Raymond wrote

Moons once I was blind; but now I see! once I was deaf but now I hear! Once I was decieved but now I understand! Once I was in bondage but now I am free! All those things; satanic occult influence to mind enlightening mysticism to the premier religion of secular humanism or diefying mankind! The vogue saying now is "in the beginning man created God" shiek and soothing and exactly what man wants ! all those humanistic thoughts are deception! The premier question is this ? Since every medical science has concluded that mans body is designed to live forever and it is a documented fact which no one or even you can deny! Then why do we die? What causes us to not follow that scientific rule of entropy? do you truely understand! You call me blind yet you refuse to see! I have had the beam removed from my eye so that I may see clearly to help remove the sliver in yours . Yet those living in darkness love it because it hides thier wicked deeds . but all those things in darkness will be brought to the light and exposed in judgement! When you live in darkness you can not see the danger all around you. Ever been to sea in the night? have you ever spelunked in caves? Have you seen the darkness? I do not worry ! No man can harm me ! I fear only one!

goudas reply

Hi Raymond.  IF YOU FEAR ONLY ONE,why are you againts the one you fear?  Would you like to debate my accusation?
I asked you once to meet me face to face,never heard from you on my request, WHY?    If you really had the beam removed from your eye,why are you against the one you fear.  I believe you are a cultist phony Ramond. Would you like to meet me face to face so we can discuss the accusation that I am making?

  gouda

Something to investigate? 

Every country Obama visited is governed by secular, not  Sharia Muslim law, so your premise is completely false.  Also, are you aware of  how many times Laura Bush did NOT go to Muslim countries?  Did that mean Bush was a secret Muslim?  No, she just didn't go on all the trips is all that meant. 

Are you aware that Pres Bush holds hands with the male members of Saudi royalty?  Does that make him a secret Muslim?  No, it is merely a sign of respect to the crown.

Just wanted to interject a few actual facts once again, but don't let that stop any of you, feel free to resume your  mutual hysteria & frenzied lunacy.

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I welcome your invitation! Would you care to travel to wisconsin illinois border we can meet at the marina! Go for a swim! Maybe a salmon charter! Or lets allow you gouda to debate my statement. Your last accusation was I was either a drunk of drug addict. I  pray that you start a new thread for debate!  Oh yes bring it on! First explain your statement that I am against the one I fear! But ps allow me to start a new thread called raymond -gouda debate

Oh Gee if the rumor started in a Blockbuster video store it must be true:  http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/sharia.asp

Read your own link, the country needs to be governed by SHARIA Muslim law, not secular law.  But let's just humor you and let all logic fly right out the window, for a moment,  Maggie.  Do you know how many times George Bush traveled to foreign countries without Laura Bush when he was president?  As a matter of fact, Bush did travel to Saudi Arabia without Laura , a country which is governed by Sharia Muslim law  (and a country Obama did not visit), so by your fractured  thinking,  Bush  was Muslim and wanted a divorce from Laura.  Even you must be able to see  and understand how ridiculous all this is.  Obviously, neither Bush nor Obama are Muslims, but you know what?   I wouldn't care if he was.