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by Held on 10 November 2008 - 19:11
This really bugs me because i hear this all the time which this guy is claiming that he is not a novice,if knew somthing about raising a german shepherd you would not have this problem.also this Can thing i am hearing about this is so old and so pet home shit they used to teach.if you are still doing this and you have a working line german shepherd then you do not know shit and why u have a working line shepherd and not a Lab i would never understand.every tom dick and harry wants a shepherd and then they got to give it away.that also just running the dog is not enough you also need to teach the dog how to behave in the house.because when you have a high drive dog the more you excercise them the more they want cause stamina builds and energy goes higher.and then if you do not give excercise one day they go crazy even more.so u need to teach how to stay calm in the house.that is all i have to say at this time. have a nice one.find more active and knowledgeable home for it.
by 1doggie2 on 10 November 2008 - 21:11
I love how everyone states "go get a lab" what are you kidding? They are puppies to and have all the behaviours of a pup. For the familes that buy them thinking they are just auto pilot , love familes and kids and are "bite" proof, is crazy thinking. I have met so many of them who are more at risk to bite than my rottie or GSd's. Also in GRANDPA's" post he stated they had a reason for getting a GSD. People just need to understand a puppy is like having a baby in the house, and we forget what that is like, I also doubt "all" breeders remind people of that fact before they sell them a pup.
Grandpa is a great alternative, gives the time for the pup to mature, and get some one on one time. as one poster stated, Doggie Daycare is sometimes a great thing for working familes. We all know you can tire them out and in 1/2 hour or less they get thier 2nd wind. Grandpa, if you explain it to your kids, put the time in, train, walk, play, they will be rewarded. I had a pup when kids were young and did not have the time to treat him any different than the kids, he just became one of, loaded him in the car also when we went somewhere. When the kids went to bed, I worked him. The biggest thing that saved my behind when raising my kids they had an 8:30 bed time, did not care what TV show on, or at famiily gathering, they went to bed. Was funny as they got older you would see them falling asleep at 8:30, sliding down the walls while they were standing, That gave me breathing room. Everyone is correct, you can train him and they will still have to follow thru. You may also have the Nanny, not wanting to deal with the pup and leaving in crate all day, would have alot of pent up energy when you get home from work, and frustrated.
by lars0997 on 11 November 2008 - 03:11
by keepthefaith on 11 November 2008 - 22:11
Thanks again, to the posters who recently responded to my plea for advice.
1doggie2, I agree with you about the misnomers regarding labs vs GSDs'. The tendency to generalize about breeds is misleading. My GSD is certainly not a high maintenace dog - and yet he has many of the attributes that one expects of a GSD. Yes, I do exercise him and have put effort into training him - often relying on advice on this board and tips from my son-in-law who, incidentally, was involved in assisting us in selecting him out of the litter.
When my son-in-law and daughter picked up their puppy, the breeder - from a highly reputable kennel - was fully aware that she was not going to be a working dog but a household pet and felt that this puppy would be a suitable choice. Their previous dog was also a GSD and she was a very well trained dog by any definition.
Yes, there was one big difference with this puppy - the timing in acquiring her was not optimal given that they were dealing with an infant around the same time which did not enable them to give the sustained attention to her training/exercise, etc.
Anyway, she will be coming over this weekend and if all goes well will stay with us for a couple of months. Based on the advice on this thread, we intend for her to spend some of the weekends with them since they will have the time to reinforce the training aspects and be part of the process as opposed to just taking over cold turkey at the end of the period.
by 1doggie2 on 12 November 2008 - 15:11
Grandpa I should also "fess" up. My Husband threatened to divorce me until that pup turned 2 years old. I took him outisde with me while I planted flowers, so the next time he went out > he dug them up. I took him with us on Vacations in the RV, he ate the seat belts at the bottom where they were attached the the floor ( I thought he was being so good sleeping at my feet) . He watched with great interest the toliet paper being used > he pappered the house. He also could do this beautiful run and steal your dinner and keep going> until he stole my husbands steak. He loved to bite my little daughters ear> until she bit him back and hard (he stopped that game). He was just a kid, like my daughters who colored the walls with thier crayons, tried out scissors on my 1 day old new leather couch, threw a ball in the house and toppled a glass table over and it shattered. Daughters and Pup turned out to be the delight of our life!!!!!

by SOUTH CAROLINA PRIDE on 12 November 2008 - 17:11
I see a lot of good inputs here. And a lot of them are correct. First, the kennel should NOT be used as a place for punishment --- but for house training or if you are leaving the house for a short period of time. As she gets older, the house will become her kennel. I agree with all on here.......she needs to burn off all that energy!! She is a pup....that is curious and wants to play a lot. Some dogs will act out this behavior in order to get more attention from her owners. My oldest Shepherd, Ozzy is 2 years old......and he had excessive energy at that age.....and still does. He never chewed up furnitiure...but he was supervised when out and and around the house. Not sure if they have "child gates"......but those work good to keep the pup in a certain area instead of being in the kennel a lot. I would block off both entrances to the kitchen with the child gates so he had more room to roam......not a whole lot he could destroy in the kitchen. Lots of exercise and let her know who is in charge. If you let these dogs get leverage over you, then you are in for a long ride. They need LOTS of excercise, training enforced daily, and established the rules!! These dogs just want to have a purpose....a job to do. Sitting around looking out the window will frustrate them. Good luck and have patience. Growing up with the small child will be beneficial.

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 12 November 2008 - 19:11
1doggie- How true! lol My kids are STILL destroying the house and we've only once thought about giving them up for adoption .lol
I have to laugh when people say "go get a lab". I had one who was the biggest pain in the ars and you wanna talk about destructive.....there was no lawn when he was done with it. Nothing but dirt holes everywhere. We'd fill em in and the next day he'd dig 4 more. lol Even the littlest dogs can be destructive when they are young.
An outdoor kennel is so worth the money to me. Keeps the house in order, gives the dogs a break from the kids, keeps the yard in tact AND I don't have to go on a treasure hunt when the poop needs picked up. They enjoy it as much as I do.
by keepthefaith on 12 November 2008 - 20:11
An outdoor kennel is so worth the money to me. Keeps the house in order, gives the dogs a break from the kids, keeps the yard in tact AND I don't have to go on a treasure hunt when the poop needs picked up.
Agar, thanks for your feedback.
My GSD does not need a kennel - my daughter/son-in-law perhaps may benefit from one. I have a much larger yard than they do and my dog generally runs around the fenced yard and about the only issue is when he barks at deer that come within vicinity of our backyard quite often and sometimes into our yard. Fortunately, he is not a digger and he is not prone to destructive behavior. He does love chewing on twigs and running around with them in his mouth.
We have a fairly heavily wooded yard with the trees located towards then back of the yard. He was trained as a puppy to poop in that area where fallen leaves from prior autumns pretty much cover the area. So we are fortunate that is the only area that he does his thing and it does not necessitate picking up after him since we do not usually venture into that area. It obviously just disintegrates over time.
I presume the use of an outdoor kennel is limited during winter months in areas of the country where weather is a factor.

by snajper69 on 12 November 2008 - 21:11
Nope is not we talking about GSD's here they tend to not get called, they tend to get hot :) lol even in winter time if inside the house :) I don't remember the last time I had heat on lol

by snajper69 on 12 November 2008 - 21:11
Nope is not we talking about GSD's here they tend to not get called, they tend to get hot :) lol even in winter time if inside the house :) I don't remember the last time I had heat on lol
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