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by Shelley Strohl on 12 September 2008 - 13:09
Good advice, Kyle. I am still reaping the benefits of how you started my youngsters in C.
SS

by jletcher18 on 12 September 2008 - 23:09
all good points made, a couple of things also,
handlers who dont use enough praise, and the other being people who over praise their dog.
not enough and the dog will lose interest in you, too much and you may break thier focus on the task at hand.
for me this is the hardest part of teaching someone new, what is the right amount. its not something that can be read, or told, it is something you have to learn with your dog. some can play for 10-15 min. at a time, some only 5.
the best thing is to be able to train with someone who knows how to read dogs and have them help you understand how to "read" your dog. if this is not possible, then shorter is better than longer. keep them wanting to do more. it will help build their drive for the next time.
john

by sueincc on 13 September 2008 - 02:09
I agree with you, "germanguy". Better to leave the puppies to be puppies, and to teach them to play besides they are more fun when they arewild and crazy puppies. Plenty of time for obedience when they are much older.

by animules on 13 September 2008 - 02:09
Don't let anybody tease them with the whip.
Always be aware of your suroundings when out in public, things can come at you fast. Other dogs, screaming kids, can cause issues.
If somebady wants to "work" your pup or young dog in a way you don't feel comfortable with, don't do it. Often gut instinct is right.
Shelley, Your point #1 cannot be stressed enough!
by triodegirl on 14 September 2008 - 02:09
Shelley, your point #4 really gave me something to think about. Bella is either spending her time with a 4 yr old make she is afaid of (he roughed her up shortly after she arrived) or an 8 yr old male she sees as her protector. (The 8 yr old went after the 4 yr old when he went after Bella.) For her to gain the confidence she needs, she shouldn't be with either male right now. The breeder suggested something similar, it just didn't sink in.
by Teri on 15 September 2008 - 12:09
My 16 month old female was 4 months old when I purchased her. Her Breeder did a GREAT job socializing her. I had her in the house for a bit with my smaller dogs, getting her use to us, our home & animals, etc. Then I put her with an older female GSD in the dog room. The older female is a great babysitter and gentle giant. This room has AC, etc. dog crates & doggy door to an outside run area. Her time with me is limited but when she is with me she is focused on me 150%. She wants to please and works hard. I have never seen her get tired or want to stop. She is a dream to train. The only draw back I see is she is very jealous of the other dogs. She wants my full attention too.
I have a new female pup almost 3 months old, she is my 16 month olds 1/2 sister and I'm worried about jealousy. Any suggestions on helping to introduce the new pup into my home with a jealous dog? She has never bitten one of my smaller dogs or showed any aggression to other dogs at training. I have been told by the Breeder to NEVER leave them alone. Especially once they are both mature. If they were to ever get into a fight, she said they would fight to the end. My other dogs all love puppy and get along well but they don't have the drive or jealousy of my 16 month old and although they have a pecking order, it is milder. Any thoughts?
Teri

by sueincc on 15 September 2008 - 13:09
If it were me, the GSDs would each be in their own run. The older female who was the younger dogs babysitter was wonderful when the other dog was a puppy, but now that sexual maturity is being reached you may see some serious fights. Your 16 month old dog may soon start challenging the older dog for dominance, as well as cow the youg puppy bitch. Female to Female aggression is legendary (I believe because females as a rule just do not back down). A puppy can be ruined by being dominated and cowed repeatedly by older dogs.
People will most likely come on here and tell you the be the pack leader (similar to what Cesar Millan does) and everything will be OK. That does work for some people, (not sure if it works with intact dogs) and usually I think they have lots of experience in this area. For beginners it's probably best to learn how to do this with 2 dogs, not already a herd full of intact bitches. You already have signs of problems with the 16 month old dog.

by animules on 15 September 2008 - 14:09

by Deejays_Owner on 15 September 2008 - 15:09
Jasmine
YOU ARE SO WRONG, there has never been any compulsion on this pup!!
She has only been worked off leash, started imprinting @ 8 wks.
She is very "hectic" for her Tug, but calm and thinking for food reward.
Was taught down from a stand, so that she would have a faster down in motion.
If you followed the posts you will see a very biddable pup.
See this post.......... 10 wk old Obedience Training Pictures
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/206766.html#206957
Doing Focus imprinting & hand following.
Then this post..........Little Raven 13 wks old Video
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/212576.html#213434
Doing Focus Heeling work.
Here are some Pictures from 15 Wks.
A 100% crop of the last picture, think she is giving her the eye!!
Don
Yes speakers would help, and your thinking is right on for the most part also!
17 wk post...............http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/221513.html
And this Video, was done as the post stated "1st time that they have worked any were other than the backyard."
Other people were in the area at the time, with a dog in a down stay for a distraction as well.
For the Video's they are doing more then they would work on a typical training day.
The tug is used as a reward after working, at this point. The pup is teething right now, so the tug was not shown in the Video.
by Teri on 15 September 2008 - 16:09
Thank you for your advice & help. I will seperate the 16 month old from the older gsd. And later keep all 3 seperate to prevent any issues. I have outside covered kennels but they are side by side. I am unsure if that will promote issues later on & hope it doesn't because I don't have enough yard to seperate the dog runs. :o( I live on a regular residential lot and have a large pool, so there is not much yard left. The kennels are 7' x 10' with an attached play area that is 10' x 20'. Seems like a waste of space now since it is unlikely they will get to play together in it. :o(
I need to win the Lotto, buy property and build a house & HUGE dog kennel. ;o)
Teri
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