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Perhaps its just the ad thats rediculas.
I found little on the website that impressed me.
Didn't mind the dog at all.
Maybe some people just come across differently.

Great post GARD.

I have a Lab/Husky/Something Mutt with Epilepsy who is incredibly social...loves people...loves to tug....but has little or no prey drive....and the thought of trying him on the field just makes me giggle.

One of my Dad's mechanics rented a room from us for a while, and around the time he moved in decided to come in late one night and through the back door.  Jay backed him up against the wall and held him there growling until Dad called him back.  The one time I came in through the back door Jay came around the corner into the kitchen hackles raised, legs straight, head down...and then turned into a love bug as soon as he realized it was me.

A dog doesnt need to be good in sport or qualified as a police dog in order to protect the home.

~Cate

July, you have openly admitted to never doing protection work, how are you suddenly an expert?

Well said GARD and Ceph. Some people don't get it.  I know labs and goldens and toy poodles that will bark aggressively and behave in a protective fashion when someone comes to the door, or yells from outside the yard who sure as hell are no police dogs. There are more than 2 types of dog, people.

KCzaja what are you talking about?? First I didn't say I was an exert. I was just sharing my opinion..sorry to tell you some show people have also done other things in their lifes!!

I've titled dogs in shcutzhund..Worked in a K9 center for 3 years (who were all members of schutzhund club).  I know about bite work..and real strong dogs..I've owned some, worked with and know enough to talk about them..

I HAVE NEVER EVER SAID THAT I HAVE NEVER DONE PROTECTION WORK..HOW CAN I SAY THAT WHEN IT'S FALSE!!
WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR INFO??

What about you?? since you have the right to talk about that?? What have you done lately the expert??
You must be talking about someone else..

I actually thought the pic was of the GSD / Mal cross... with that short back and high tail set :)  Shows what I know.

Well, my error then july9000, I thought you were the amline lady who was posting here a while back who never so much as did a CDor a BH. I must have mixed you up then, my apologies.

Okay, you need a dog with both to be successful in schutzhund.  The reason dogs give chase and grip is their well developed prey drive.  The reason they stay on the decoy rather than run back to their handler during the period of time the dog is alone guarding the decoy (think courage test) is defense drive.   Dogs that are "all prey" can't take pressure, but dogs that  are "all defense"  can't take pressure either (remember defense is only a step away from avoidance).  Either dog might be able to title on their home fields with their own sympathetic helper, but sooner than later both types tend to fall apart with pressure.

Obviously I didn't figure this out for myself, and my words are clumsy.  Read this article for a good explanation:
http://www.deancalderon.com/Articles/Protection%20Drives.pdf

Or get Helmut Raisers book "Der Schutzhund (the protection dog)".  This book really explains in depth, all the drives and why they are all necessary.  This book is soley about protection, no ob or tracking.